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I think any LP-based boot that's from any time in the last century (last millennium, actually) should be given a pass.

I kind of thought (presumably ancient) LP issues of air-checks were kind of given a pass on this rule. I know, know -- nothings ever been said about that officially -- but I've always figured that if something was old enough to be from the LP-era (and presumably WAY out of print), that actually discussing the LP's themselves (including finding them) might not be such a horrible idea. The theory being that the older the source of the media itself (in this case, the vinyl -- not the content), the less of an issue it was. I could see inquiring about where I could find an old LP of something (quasi-legal, at best), where inquiring about where to download the very same recordings would be off limits. Just my 2 cents, and I'm perfectly happy however the powers-that-be prefer. PS: Or another way of looking at it -- it's the very "after-market" nature of (old) bootleg LP's that (I think) should make this less of an issue. It's not like one could find this LP on Amazon, or as a (current) commodity item on any other on-line source. I'm thinking the statute of limitations is long gone in terms of when an old bootleg LP was actually pressed -- what, 25+ or even closer to 35+ years ago?

Just casual conversation between sets, or after the gig. Nothing formal planned -- so I'll need to pick 2 or 3 questions/topics (at most) -- as I don't want him to feel interrogated.

I have New York Calling on CD, with a bonus track too, iirc. A really fine date!

I sure wish he had recorded more in the '70's especially. I'll normally buy almost anything he's on from that decade.

Hoping to hear and meet Rene McClean this weekend up in Baltimore. Not really planning to ask much about his dad/step-dad (depending on where you read), but more about his own recordings and live performances over the years -- and especially some particular musicians he's worked with -- most notably... Tyrone Washington(!) -- Rene was on TW's last leader-date "Do Right" (the more populist and/or funk-oriented of Tyrone's dates -- an attmept at "feel good" jazz?). Also, one of the only tunes on 'The Trainwreck' that is listed with an actual title, is called "Rene" (alternately "Renee" from one other source). I remember some speculation around these parts about that being some further (possible) TW/RM connection (pretty speculative, I know, but since there are other TW/RM connections, who knows?). Maybe the one and only "Jackie" question I might ask is about is that unreleased Jackie date with Tyrone. Nathen Page plays on Rene's first leader-date, and Page was a fantastic(!) and (I think) very underrated guitarist (or at least certainly under-recorded). Several Woody Shaw dates with Rene!! Another interesting date (that doesn't even appear in Rene's own discography, on his own website) is from 1981 or '82, with Rene and also Terumasa Hino(!). Anyway, what other things would you ask Rene if given the chance? Again, especially stuff not about Jackie - since I figure he gets that all the time.

Jim beat me to it, but Billy Harper is the first name I always think of when someone mentions "post Coltrane". I've never heard a leader-date of his that was anything less than fantastic - so just jump right in with anything you can find with his name in the spine.

Will give $100 when I get the chance this weekend, if not before. Please pony-up people!!

That's half the reason that I would buy something like this to encourage more releases like it! Granted, I am fairly interested anyway, but all I know is that I want more 1970s releases, especially if they involve multiple different leader dates within the same release - assuming the material is worthy.

Where's that crazy hot-rod of a drive in Paris(?) - I think it was Paris - shot in the late 70's, as I recall. It's on Youtube, I'm sure of it.

Even if I already had half or more of this material, I'm sure I'd order one -- just to be supportive of Mosaic dipping into the 70's (or really late 60's -- on a label associated with the 70's). I think I had nearly every one of Woody Shaw's Muse dates, but I still jumped on that one as a pre-order. Didn't hurt that what I did have of those was on those crazy 32Jazz releases (some of which was in packaging that I like even less than digipaks!) -- still I'm thrilled that Mosaic is starting to work on 70's and "70's-ish" (or is it "70's-esque"?) material.

"The Dolphy Series" -- holy crap! Whole BUNCH of dates there I've been curious about for eons. I don't think I've heard any of them, save for Jordan's two Strata East leader-dates ("In The World" is really amazing -- and I think "Glass Bead Games" is one of the finest sax + piano trio dates I know). I'll pre-order this one for sure! -- Tom PS: Kinda wish it had included Jordan's 70's Muse leader-dates, but how can I be disappointed with any Mosaic that includes that much Strata East material.

AMEN to that!!!

I wanna hear an honest to goodnes mash-up of different, well-known Beethoven themes and melodies (symphonic, chamber, solo-piano -- the late string quartets -- you name it!!). Semi-seriouly.

I used to have this, but haven't seen my copy in ages. I remember it fondly, And I may have to track down another copy!

I've got this on my DVR, and am reminded I need to watch it this week (saw it when I programmed it to record the Smiley interview with Wayne).

My very first thought too, upon seeing just the thread-title. Reminds me of a handwritten note on the new-releases display at Euclid Records in St. Louis a good 10 or 15 years ago -- "This month's latest release by David Murray" (under a DIW disc, as I recall).

Nothing previously unreleased that I'm seeing - or what am I missing?

Definitely!!! -- I actually have all the Freidman Prestige dates now (including both Metamorphosis (i.e. the date you mentioned above), and also Derams and Explorations -- also with Freidman & Zoller). Great stuff!!

Several dates that first came out on BN in the brown-cover two-LP series, came out under alternately attributed leadership. Thinking of the Andrew Hill date that came out under Sam River's name, and the Horace Parlan date that came out under Booker Ervin's name. Were there any others on BN that in that 70's 2-LP series with similar changes in who supposedly lead the date (or impied changes)?

Doesn't have to all be "fast" -- but one of the things I like most is Roy Hayne's sometimes "busy" playing (even on the slower pieces) on Q&A -- which gives a subtle sense of urgency to almost the entire date.

I listen to music a lot at work -- but I can't really use headphones where I'm at -- so I'm pretty limited to piano trios and guitar trios (and the like), and also classical chamber music (symphonic stuff has too much dynamic range). I have my own (big) semi-private office, but it's sometimes a high-traffic area too (and at totally random times, without warning) -- as folks often pass through from my office to the "big" boss's office, or to a shared fridge/microwave area 20 feet from my desk. One date I've discovered that's REALLY great to work to is "Question & Answer" with Pat Metheny, Dave Holland, and Roy Haynes. (I've listened to that disc more in the last 2 months than probably the last 10 years -- and I thought I really liked it before). So, I'm looking for suggestions for other dates similar to "Question & Answer" -- not necessarily with Metheny (any guitar-player, any era is fine) -- but STUDIO dates (or live dates with minimal or low-volume applause) with guitar at the center -- but either no horns -- or horns that come off as understated (and "Gil Evans"-esque) like those on Herbie Hancock's "Speak Like a Child" or Jonh Scofield's "Quiet". Basically, guitar trio albums (or anything similar) that are as harmonically interesting and/or as fast and "busy" and "Question and Answer"? Dates with piano are fine, but I'm a little apprehensive about organ trio dates, as the "soaring" quality of the B3 is a sound I don't think I could get away with at work (with so many others around). But if there are any organ-trio things that are fast and busy, and/or harmonically interesting -- but which don't come off as being as "wildly energetic" as most soul-jazz dates, I'd be open to those as well (as if any such animal exists). Thanks!! -- Rooster PS: The great thing about "Question and Answer" is that I can have it on at low volume, and there's a TON of stuff going on in it (all the time). But unless I turn it up, people simple don't notice it -- other than the drums now and then.

Anyone have a link to Chuck's memories of one or some of the early (earliest?) public discoveries of the multiple released takes of Ascension - back in the day? Some fascinating discussion, as I recall. (On my iPhone at the moment.)

Mrs. Rooster and I are contemplating long weekend up in New York City in early November -- could be as much as a 4 or even 5-day weekend (so weekdays are possible too). Anything in the range of Oct. 30th through Nov. 12th. Suggestions for on-line comprehensive list(s) of jazz and/or classical music events going on in NYC around that time? Haven't a clue where to look, other than to start Googling -- but I'm figuring there are some tried and trusted websites that are clearly better than others. Many thanks in advance for any particular gigs anyone can suggest, and any web-resources I should be checking. Much appreciated!!

Man, somebody start a whole new thread about this -- should generate a LOT of interesting discussion and speculation. Stat!!