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I'm sure it'd be a bitch to get a B3 up the stairs to Twins, or down the stairs to Bohemian Caverns. Has anyone heard/seen an actual B3 in either space? Is there an alternate set of stairs down into Bohemian especially? The main stairs down is a pretty tiny passage, best I can recall.

It's been many, many years ago, but I remember a blowup extra sessions disc that a friend of mine had back in Kansas City and I'm pretty sure it was the Donald Byrd/Pepper Adams material. Ever since, I've always associated online listings of "Herbie blowup extra sessions" as being the ByrdAdams stuff.

Yeah, the word on the street is that the debt limit is going to be raised, but the shutdown will continue.

NOTE: The musicians themselves have to be wearing the overalls...

For what it's worth, I had the same problem too. On my laptop, and also on my phone. Not a big deal though, of course.

No truer words could ever never be spoken.

Am I the only one who thinks the relative positioning of the two figures, the cropping, and just the overall composition of this cover is just a little less compelling than it could have been otherwise? I don't hate this cover, but it's always struck me as being a little bit weird.

The Oct. 17 gig here in DC at one of the Smithsonian museums could be affected by the Shutdown, depending on when it's finally resolved. What's the plan, and any thought being given to a finding a backup venue? I'm sure the status of this is probably day to day, wait and see -- but given the distance from MI to DC -- there's got a be a point where some decisions have to be made. Were you guys appearing as one stop of several here on the East Coast? I'm not seeing anything else on the calendar, so I'm guessing you're just driving out here and back? I've never been able to catch the band live in person, and I'm sure hoping this gig doesn't end up getting scuttled! I'd suggest the museum where I work as an alternate venue, but he sound would be awful (the biggest, boomiest space on the planet -- near horrible for music events) -- and besides, after-hours events here require some not insubstantial extra security expense (which is never optional) -- so I doubt it would work -- plus there's the issue of the band getting (or not getting) paid for the gig itself. If driving from Michigan, when were you going to be heading out? And, in case this does all work out, how long were you planning to be in town? I'd kind of half been planning to hang out with you guys after the gig that night -- or, perish the thought, you weren't going to start driving back (overnight) that very night right after the gig?

A great question would be what albums/sessions with Grant Green with organists OTHER THAN Larry Young or Big John -- are real "must haves" kind of sessions? (For those of us who feel like EVERYTHING he ever recorded with Young or Patton is "must have".)

Used copies in excellent condition for less than $40, a no- brainier if you ask me.

Get the box!

Hey Chuck, do you have any favorite(s) from among the dates that will be represented on this new set? -- the subject of this entire thread? I only have the two Jordan leader-dates, and don't think I've ever heard any of the others (that I recall). Thanks in advance.

Happenings Ten Years Time Ago is one of the most bad-ass tracks of that entire decade!!

I *love* practically the entire Henderson Milestone box. Very underrated, me thinks, at least in certain circles.

It's a sign that you need the Milestone Years box.

What would music criticism be (to say nothing of political discourse), without the use of perjoratives?!!

Was Henze really "conservative" for this time? - particularly in the 50's and 60's?? As compared to more (or the most) cutting-edge composers of his day, I would begrudgingly say I guess so -- but relative to the commonly acceptable norms of the classical music world (around that same general time), my gosh, he certainly was anything but "conservative" (as I think the term is most commonly understood). When I think of composers who were both somewhat forward-thinking (but certainly never cutting edge) -- I think of folks like Vaughn Williams, or Barber -- both of whom I like (especially Barber's 2nd Symphony, which I think is very modern, in its own way). Heck, even Korngold's lone symphony is a lot more forward-thinking than much of the rest of his output. And, heck, even Copeland(!) dabbled in serialism -- but I guess, since he did it a couple decades after Schoenberg, so was that (somehow) being conservative? I guess maybe, but intuitively that just seems so wrong. I do think the term is complicated -- but I think deservedly so, because both the context of the use of the work (and considering the audience for whom the writing is for), along with what the general norms of a particular artistic medium are in a given time (for the wider audience) also should have an impact on whether the use of the term is accurate (or not). I don't think Cage and Feldman reset the bar for what was to be termed "conservative" overnight (or even after a decade). When something is somewhat "radical" -- I think it retains some aspects of that "radical"-ness, at least for some reasonable period of time (50 years? - 75 years?). At least in terms of classical music. Maybe with jazz those time-limits are compressed. And with pop music, even shorter still. Tricky, that word, I will admit that.

Old timey? Behind the times? Stuck in the past? All kidding aside, I think in many circumstances it's perfectly fine to use the word "conservative" to denote an approach that's out of step with current or more modern thinking. No value judgements there, just a temporal discription of what is new (or newer) thinking, vs. prior thoughts, ideas, or conventions.

Just saw this in another "what's going on in NYC" thread, and thought I'd cross-post the info here (for my benefit later)...

How does his trombone playing compare with his cello playing?

So what's the complete sessionography look like? i.e., what are the names of all 20 tunes? Would love to get my head around what all was finally done for this project, both the 9 tunes on the CD -- but everything else too. And then piece together where the originals came from (what albums they represent). Haven't been following things as closely as some around here, but never the less, I'm really looking forward to hearing the results!!!

Seriously, does anyone really think that much if any of Henze's music is particulaly conservative?

Hans Werner Henze? The big DG box (with something like 14 discs - mostly white spines, with (literally) a rainbow of colo(u)rs as an accent at the top of the spine). Henze? Conservative? Pardon my French, but WTF??

I can only narrow it down to One big box, and one Select... Andrew Hill complete BN 1963-66, and... Andrew Hill, the BN Select What else did you expect? ;-)

I'll definitely be there. Only about 3-4 blocks from where I work, how convenient!!