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All quotes from the other thread I started on this (which also included the article). But this one is just as good, so I'm hereby transfering the quotes here to this thread, and I'm about to nuke the other thread. No harm, no foul.

From Dmitry and I --- we bid you a very fond:

A few quick positive words about AAJ. I think Bev's right (as he(?) said in another post sometime before) that there is a better representation of European posters (and topics) on AAJ. (Like if I had a question about the UMO Jazz Orchestra, or a bunch of ECM titles -- I'm be more likely to post it on AAJ.) And, if I were into pre-1950 jazz more (or had a specific question about that era), I'd be more likely to post on AAJ more frequently. ( Also, I get the 'inside jokes' better here too!!! )

The new title came at 3,000 - and from what I'm told, there's more with each 1,000 yet to come ( B) ), at least up to some point (probably 10,000). Jim and I ought to be there by Valentines Day (2004), would be my guess.

I don't want this thread to turn into an AAJ bash-fest (and it shouldn't), but I'll take a stab at this one... To start with, where are frequently more jazz-related topics here that play into my favorite jazz interests – be that Blue Note (especially the recent round of Conns, and RVG's), or similar labels, or jazz of the 60's in general (which this board has a greater frequency of discussion about, than AAJ). And in terms of the 60's (and beyond), on this board there is a greater amount of participation in discussions about the musicians that had one foot in the 'hardbop' camp, and one foot in the 'avant-garde' camp -- which I tend to call the 'progressive' camp (for lack of a better term). We can all disagree on the terminology, but regardless - there's way more talk HERE about Miles after 1965, and Larry Young, and John Patton, and (my latest big kick) Andrew Hill!! -- and 70's jazz like Billy Harper, and Woody Shaw -- than I've ever seen on AAJ. Also, most people here know who Jimmy Woods was, or Tyrone Washington, or Grachan Moncur – or any of dozens of other more obscure musicians from the 60's. And (perhaps more importantly), the discussion on these topics is much more spirited here -- more 'debate'-like, weighing the pros and cons of the importance of player 'XYZ' within an overall movement, or their influence on future generations, etc... And frankly, the people here are just more spirited in their discussions in general (jazz or otherwise), than most people are on AAJ. (Even sometimes those same people, on both boards, are more 'spirited' in their posting here, than they are there). And, I should also point out, that the spirited discussions here about music rarely get into the kind of "I'm right, and your wrong" banter than we find much more frequently on AAJ. Typically there are more people on AAJ that have an axe to grind about certain jazz styles ('hardbop' and others), who are quick to chime in with their opinions about why much of the music we hold so dear on this board, is complete and utter crap in his and their minds. There aren't lots of people like that on AAJ, but just enough that they can quickly sour many a thread about the kinds of topics I'm most interested in. So, in short, there's much less bickering about 'music' here on this board. (We save all our bickering for the Politics forum!! ) I've gotta run, but I'm sure there are other reasons that will occur to me too. One more. The discussion on AAJ sometimes seems more sophomoric, with more jazz 'newbies'. This isn't a criticism of their board, but it is (I think) an accurate observation. Now I really do have to run...

Now (today) I'm getting the "mail error" messages nearly every time I post to the board, and every time I try to send a PM. Also, the PM doesn't appear in my "sent items" folder. Not bitchin' - just providing some more feedback, to hopefully help resolve the problem.

Greg Osby - Symbols of Light (A Solution)

Lee Morgan - The Last Session

Amen to that!!!!

Looks like Allmusic has reviewed "Passing Ships" finally, although their review isn't actually on the AMG site (at least not yet). But it is in the "AMG Review" section for the listing of "Passing Ships" at BN.com (HERE)

Here are THE DETAILS. Interesting!!!!

Don't have time to give a full report now, but I did end up going to hear Wynton. Overall, his lecture struck me as being much like his music. Not nearly as offensive as I might have expected it to be (or maybe 'wanted' it to be - which shows my biases). But he sure talked a lot, without really having much to say -- much like what he plays. The audience was nearly all college kids, of all different kinds of majors (so it was a generally 'less-than-interested-in-jazz' kind of group -- or frankly, a group that really was necessarily all that fanatical about music, for that matter). The place was packed, so one got the sense that the lecture had been heavily promoted, perhaps even as one of many such lectures that students could attend - like for the Freshman 'general studies' courses. (You know the kind, which try to introduce incoming students to critical thinking -- since this was at a small Liberal Arts college.) Most of his talk wasn't about music, although he did try to tie some things into his ideas about music, usually in long, rambling, and not-all-that-well-thought-out ways. I took a bunch of notes, and I'll try to provide some quotes later. Not sure I'm all that glad I went (either for good or bad reasons), but he did confirm my expectations of mediocrity. He did say a number of things (most of which I jotted down as best I could), which seem antithetical to his otherwise conservative views about jazz. I'll type up some of the 'better' ones later. He took questions at the end, but they had to be submitted in advance, and I was a couple minutes late getting to the lecture - and didn't get a program (which had the cards in it to submit questions). By the time I wrote out a question about his thoughts on Women in jazz (because he mentioned 'women' several times in his talk), they had already collected up all the cards and taken them on stage for the moderator to read. (Drat!!) More later -- gotta run now...

I'm not looking for single images as much as links to entire sites devoted to all kinds of cool stuff (images, etc...) from the past. I just stumbled on this one, and on first glance, could probably spend hours there... http://www.popcultmag.com So, where else is there cool stuff to brouse??? EDIT: Some interesting articles there too...

Check out BET on Sunday nights (sometime around or after 10pm, at least here in Central Time). Robert Tilton still does his thing, and it's still as madening / sad-as-hell / funny as ever!!!!

Me too. Actually, I really don't have all that many recordings with Bari, come to think of it. Probably fully half of what I got is stuff with Pepper.

I understand that Michael Ray has sat in with MMW on a dozen or more occasions over the years, judging from the tape-tree data I've seen at a couple MMW fanatic sites. Always been curious to hear Ray with MMW. Anybody here got any????