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CDJapan has a service they provide (or a 3rd party they partner with - not sure which it is), that will find things that they (CDJapan) doesn't have in stock themselves -- stuff that's out of print -- and they'll order it on your behalf, and send it to you (or have it sent to you). I've never used it, but I think you find the item in CDJapan's database, and then go through some sort of alternate-ordering process, and they'll find it for you (if they can), and of course charge a mark-up. Of course, what I don't know is whether they actually have the item sent to them - and then they resend it to you. Or whether they have the other party (the one with the actual item) send it directly to you (which, in this case, wouldn't work). Also, I don't think you get to specify where they source it from -- they just try and find it (probably as cheaply as they can), and then they make it happen. CLEARLY I'm not up on all the details -- but I just (barely) know the service exists. EDIT: It's not as simple as the service once was, but here are the details... https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/guide/help/special_request/about_proxy_shopping

Oh my gosh, Ted Curson's Pop Wine is just the best!! Quite a few Ted Curson albums I really love (both 'by' and just 'with') -- but Pop Wine is probably my all-time favorite of anything with or by him. The feel is different, but I rank Pop Wine right up there with any of Charles Tolliver's 70's quartet leader-dates -- which is high praise.

Is there a thread for album covers with donkeys? - in the spirit of equal time, and all.

I too am shocked the Select series (aparently?) didn’t sell enough to be viable - or was it the added cost of color packaging/booklets?? In any case, I bought like 18-20 Selects, and would’ve *gladly* bought more, of artists I was interested enough in. I could easily name 6-8 Selects that are like desert island material to me. And I even bought ‘safety’ copy of the Hill BN select (no surprise to all of you). The 3rd ‘messy’ disc of the Hill BN Select, the one with Sam Rivers on both sessions, and Woody Shaw on the first - are a long my all-time favorite BN sessions ever (even as crazy as both those dates are). Woody Shaw plays like there’s no tomorrow on the Halloween ‘67 date (if I remember the recording date right). Crazy stuff!!

Lovely to hear! Genuinely.

Geez, I haven't seen Green Acres in probably 35 years (not since I was a teenager), save for 1-2 episodes with my grandmother maybe, when I was in college (which I couldn't swear to). I'll have to take a look at this clip later. Had no idea.

The only reason I think CD's looks better (than CDs), is because CD is a acronym. In other words, "CD" itself isn't a 'word' as such (to my way of thinking). So while I fully admit CD's doesn't look quite right, neither does CDs -- and for whatever reason, the former looks slightly better (to me) than the latter. Now would I pluralize UFO as UFO's? Maybe. Or is it UFOs? Same thing -- neither one looks right to me. Pluralizing an acronym is certainly something I do all the time, but more so in verbal communication. Still, on-line communication like this is WAY more 'verbal' than it is any sort of even semi-formal writing. In essence, all this Forum stuff is more like written verbal communication, stylistically speaking. So how to you write stuff that you wouldn't put in writing in most other contexts? Of course with text-messaging, and twitter, all kinds of norms for even "written verbal" communication are changing all the time.

Much as a I love Woody Shaw (and Bobby Hutcherson), I've never thought that Bobby's live at Montreux album was AS good as it should have been. It's pretty darn good, definitely, but I still have always felt like it could/should have been better. Haven't listened to it in years, so I should see if I still feel the same way. THAT SAID, San Francisco never hit me right, and I've always chalked that up to Joe Sample's inclusion on the date. I always wanted to like San Francisco better, but try as I might, I just never connected with it anywhere near as well as every single Hutcherson leader-date that preceded it, and more than half the Hutch dates in his 70's Mosaic Select too (I think that had 4 albums).

How have none of these been posted yet?

Perhaps CDs is more correct, but it looks “more wrong” than CD’s

I was pleased and a slightly surprised to have also gotten a push msg from NPR on my phone yesterday around Noon.

Some quick googling, and I’m seeing he played in St. Louis at Just Jazz in 1993 (and again in 1995). I think I probably saw him in ‘93... Here’s part of the review from the STL Post Dispatch... https://www.questia.com/newspaper/1P2-32830854/roditi-brazilian-feeling-in-samba-pop

Gosh. I think(?) I saw him live once too -- many, MANY years ago, back when I was in college. SUPER early in my jazz listening, like when I was a Junior year in college maybe. Would have been in St. Louis, at a club called Just Jazz (iirc), maybe around 1989-92? I'm gonna guess 1991, but I really can't remember. If it weren't for his rotary-valve trumpet -- which I half-remember seeing 'somebody' play live at some concert I went to (super-early, at one of the first 3-4 jazz clubs I ever went to -- I'm not 100% sure I would remember having seen him. NOT because he wasn't good, but just cuz I was so incredibly green. In any case, RIP. I'll try and Google around and see if I can find any evidence of him having played in St. Louis around that time -- at what I'm almost positive was Just Jazz (could swear that was the name of the club, down around 9th and Missouri I want to say, in Downtown STL). I only remember that as being the address, and my memory of the streets of St. Louis is so vague now, I couldn't even begin to tell you if that's right.

Didn't/haven't ordered the Mosaic, but the 2012 Japanese CD of Third Stream (with the one 'new' bonus track on the new Mosaic), and The Flip Conn -- I just gave both of these a spin... ...um, in solidarity?!

Gosh, I really need to dig out my Elvin Mosaic again -- which I don't spin nearly enough. I'd plum forgotten entirely (and have absolutely zero memory) that Byrd's tune "Fancy Free" was on Live at the Lighthouse -- so much so, that I'm scarcely sure I ever realized that (or like maybe 25 years ago, the last time I owned the "Lighthouse" dates on individual CD's (before I got the Mosaic). There's so many discographical details like that I used to know like the back of my hand, and I care barely remember 1/4th of them any more. Guess that was a lot easier when (20-25 years ago), I was pouring over my BN liners a lot more often, and not just thinking "been there, done that" with so much of the BN catalog, as I do now (which I still love, but don't spin anywhere near as much as I did 15-25 years ago). Then again, I don't spin as much music in general now, these days, it seems -- life just getting busier and busier sometimes.

Was this big Herbie box ever reissued in any sort of less crazy packaging than the massive clear cube thing? Not sure that would sway me towards jumping on buying it, but it might.

I like all those pre-Mizell electric leader-dates, but I get what you're saying Jim. They're not knock-outs, but I still dig 'em a lot. Also, I'm with you about Kofi maybe being the best of the bunch. What all those albums lack a little in sparkle from specific soloist, is a vibe and texture that really does work (for me anyway). I mean, if they were by any other less-well-known musicians, and on some smaller or independent label from around that same time, they'd be lost treasures. But cuz they're on BN, and by somebody like "Donald Byrd" - they're easier to write off as not quite up to being among his finest. But, yeah, Kofi!

Agreed! Certainly when I consider trumpeters' outputs from before 1963 (an arbitrary year where I've always felt more jazz started to get especially 'more interesting', even 'thorny')… ...I would have to put Little very near the very top of any top-10 list of notable trumpeters (pre-1963), at least to my tastes and way of thinking. Right up there with Clifford Brown, another incredible talent who left us much too soon.

I gotta tell you Hutch, you're really hitting it out of the park with all this -- and your writing is just a joy to read on my subway commutes. From today's Electric Byrd post, my reading "Another difference: Bitches Brew often seems like a limbless torso, with normal markers removed, an irrational, flowing shape" just put the biggest damn smile on my face. I'm sure I could pull other similarly delightful quotes from any number of the previous days entries. Engaging and thoughtful writing, that's both economical and a bit luxurious at the same time (no small feat). If I tried something like this, my posts would be 3x as long, and probably say half as much. If you'd ever want to consider pulling your entire year's worth of writing into a self-published book collecting up everything for posterity -- I'd be delighted to kick in $100 towards that end, like an informal sort of 'kickstarter'. Sign me up now, matter of fact, I'm already sold on the concept barely halfway through the first month. Bravo!

That Woody Shaw concert ensemble thing is also my single favorite Woody Shaw date ever, and maybe one of my top-10 all time favorite jazz albums. Just stunning, in every way imaginable - writing, arranging, soloing. A masterpiece.

OK, I got the thing working last night. 2 things you gotta do/know... 1) First, you have to register/sign-up (give them your email, and set a password). NOTE: They *don't* have you enter your password twice, and what you enter is obscured by asterisks as you key in each letter/digit. SO BE 100% SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SETTING THE PASSWORD TO. Each letter/digit is visible briefly, but look carefully to make sure you know what you're keying. ALSO, there does seem to be some minimum password length, but I can't remember if it was 6 or 8 characters (and there's nothing that says what it is). Mine is all alpha, so I *don't* think it's one of those things were you have to have at least one digit, and I know I didn't use any symbols. They do have a help/support email. 2) Then it's not exactly clear how to get anything to actually play, but all you have to do is click the song name from within each release. That took me a while to stumble on, and figure out, as there's no visible 'play' button -- but you just click the track name. There's also a repeat function and a shuffle mode too, but I don't remember if I tested those entirely. In the default mode, it plays the track you specify, and then the rest of the tracks on that same album in sequence. You can play all of the new releases, all of his Muse dates, and all of his Columbia dates -- all for FREE (which is really quite a bit) -- and Concert Ensemble at the Berliner Jazztage *does* include the one bonus track found on the Mosaic (which was the only new material on Shaw's Muse Mosaic, iirc) -- the 10-minute long "Sanyas" (Steve Turre). Another lesser-known thing you can play is the live "International Trumpet Guild" CD, which is up under 'new releases' (It's pretty much like the earlier Highnotes, vol 1-4, so I consider this basically vol 5), and here's the info on it... https://www.discogs.com/Woody-Shaw-Field-Recordings-Of-A-Jazz-Master/release/3851863 None of the 3(?) recent "Onkel Po's" dates are there (the two by Woody from 1979 and '82, iirc -- and one by Louis Hayes, makes 3 -- am I forgetting any?). But you CAN listen to the two recent Louis Hayes Highnotes. All that's free, and that's not too shabby, and nice to have at your fingertips anytime you need a Woody fix. Whether I delve into the rare stuff (at $13/month), is another story.

So those of you with the set already, how is the (presumably new) Essay? - i.e. the liner-notes?? Any new revelations? Or notable ones at least?

I just added it too. The “subscription rates” are $12.99/month, or $99.99/year — which appears to be what it takes to access and stream everything. Those prices are pretty “yikes!” As far as I’m concerned. Pretty steep pricing model. So that’d be like $300 over 3 years, then you gotta pony up a whole nother $100 for another year? I suppose 95% of their subscribers would go for a month or two, and then call it good once they’d heard everything a few times. Anyway, no matter how you slice it, that’s a pretty steep cost of entry. That said, the list of concerts you get access too is pretty long, much longer than I was expecting. Didn’t count, but maybe 45 audio concerts (maybe closer to 50?), and 20 videos (all of varying length, surely, some full-length concerts, some probably a song or three). If I subscribed, I’d have to (mentally) write off half of the cost as a sort of charitable contribution in support of what they’re trying to do. Gosh that price is steep, for any kind of ongoing access. EDIT: I did NOT subscribe, and if I did, I’d wait until August, about the only really slow month I have at work. Maybe I’m cheap, but their asking price seems like a big stretch for most.

I really need to pick up some of these earlier Mal leader-dates. I have whatever's on the Prestige Coltrane boxes -- so I'm seeing that's Mal/2 and The Dealers (plus the 3 Trane dates that Mal's a sideman on), but that's about it (maybe The Quest, which I know I used to own, but haven't seen in eons -- maybe I finally had enough of Ron Carter's cello? ). But I really need to get more of the rest of his pre-'69 output. I've heard several of them before, years ago (borrowed from friends), and have always meant to get more -- but I've been more obsessive about his 1969-1980 output.