king ubu

(you can get up to 82 minutes onto a CD ... but there's a note in the booklet of the Columbia/Legacy CD edition of "The Birth of the Third Stream" - which clocks in I think at 76 or 77 minutes - that they've exhausted the medium's capacity to the last ... not sure about redbook standard and 80 minutes always having been the same thus, sorry)

Oh hellyeah, I hear you Allen! That performance was a major ear-opener for me, too, at about the same age. I remember buying that cheapo Mingus Compilation (this one) and that "Stormy Weather" really struck something within me. I must have bought my CD copy of "Mingus Presents Mingus" around the same time, but none of the tunes had that very same impact as "Stormy Weather" and it's to this day a favorite in all of music! Oh yes, please do! There are several places to check here: Though none got too far ... there must be more hidden in other ZA jazz threads ... anyway, all his Steeplechase albums are recommmended! And anything you can get by the Blue Notes, too!

And there's a thing for Randy - his father Arno with Woody's band (from the JazzWax interview): http://marcmyers.typepad.com/.a/6a00e008dca1f088340153931d0126970b-popup and another one: http://marcmyers.typepad.com/.a/6a00e008dca1f088340153931d1483970b-popup

Sad news - enjoyed his playing in those few spots he turns up in my collection ... first took notice of him with Mingus on Impulse - he's got some fine moments there! This one's well worth getting, too:

Very good pre-order price on amazon.es for the upcoming box, just in case anyone's interested: Van Cliburn - Complete Album Collection - EUR 29,28 (pre-order, amazon.es)

(I hope you guys all noticed that I was being ironic and *kinda* quoting Linda S. above, right?)

Found a pair worthy of reporting here - both in a shape that makes listening a pleasure, and both covers are pretty good, too (the BN has seem splits a few centimeters in from the opening, but that's it, the Atlantic has one that's actually more like a dent, on top, a centimeter long or so): Very happy about these two! And I got a very kind price, too (about 25$ for both). There'd have been Eddie Harris' "Live at Newport", but it sounded rough and looked pretty battered already - too bad!

Oh yes, Getz! Wonderful music, how could I forget about that in my little "best of early Brookmeyer" listing?! "Fall 1960" is a terrific album!

But then you must be aware there's much more to Brookmeyer than his stint with Jones/Lewis, right? Just some high points in his career include: - his early albums as a leader, crowned by "Traditionalism Revisited" - his sideman work with the Jimmy Giuffre 3 - his sideman work with Gerry Mulligan's quartet and sextet - his part in the success (musically speaking) of Mulligan's great Concert Jazz Band And of course he was with Thad/Mel long before Thad left and was - in my opinion - a fine contributor at that stage, already!

some previous flute discussions that might be of interest: happy reading

Having Lloyd right next to Trane in that list ... ouch! But then what's right is wrong and what's wrong ... though I tend to take Lloyd for drug-hazed pop-spirituality, at least back when ... quite like his later stuff on ECM, at least what I heard. The duo album with Billy Higgins doesn't have too many fans, I think, but it might fit with what you're looking for.

Not sure either, but I think it must have something to do with birth dates usually ocurring before dates of death (well, at least in one person's biography - it can get more complicated than that if you look at crowds). Now what does that tell us about the screaming? Is it okay to scream when giving birth? When being born? When dying? oh oh, and what's a manly man? a mangy man?

They should launch a band with Grace Kelly as musical director.

Is this a reference to the box, the 'now where did I leave my monocle look' on Klempy's face or the dire quality of my photoshopping skills? Sorry for the late reply ... it was a refence to all of that and then some But back on topic: I'm making some classical x-mas gifts this year ... mom will get Schubert. The "Winterreise" by Christine Schaefer and "Die schöne Müllering" by Fritz Wunderlich (in my humble opinion she urgently needs that as an upgrade to the Fischer-Dieskau recording she has - it's really worlds apart). And mère ubu's mother will get some Gould doing Bach - I gather that's not a popular notion around here, but what do I care, I love it. Oh, did I misunderstand the topic here? Not the thread title though

Hey, Shank is very much alright with me as a musician ... don't care about the other bull. His Pacific Jazz quartet (with Williamson, then Billy Bean) and later quintet or sextet albums (with Bob Cooper, Carmell Jones) are mighty fine! Not so sure about the Shank/Cooper flute/oboe stuff, but I do enjoy it mostly, just not as much as the alto Shank. As for his Latin stuff, I've never felt a need to explore that beyond his collaborations with Laurindo Almeida (whom I enjoy, also with Getz, I think the Getz/Almeida album is one of the finest of Getz' bossa efforts).

Still haven't heard the BYG duos with Cherry, darn! But I fully endorse the recommendations for the two Enjas and for "Red and Black"!

Not a VDMK fan either ... but I enjoy him quite some on clarinet, and his duo concert with Paal Nilssen Love this year was great ... I picked up this recent album on recommendation of a fan I met at that concert and it's very good:

But, but, you forget that Bud Shank was the first jazz flautist and the first to integrate bossa and jazz - and most surely the one with the largest Porsche collection, too

Ha, do I hear Eddie Harris on the final track? He's amazing, his tone is just so unique, you don't need more than a few seconds to pin him down! Haven't yet read anything in this thread, I guess three pages in he's long been identified by others ... but hell that's a great closer there! Will try and give further listens (just finishing my first) and post some comments and impressions within the next few days - first listen was fun though, thanks!

funny, but coming via the clarinet, that's always been the a-flat key for me

Happy Birthday, Jim! :party: hope to find time for your BFT this Sunday ... finally!

Happy Birthday! :party:

Oh, I'm sure ... I love some of his stuff. But in that concert he obviously didn't bother. It was rather painful in "Yesterday". I hear you. But still ... I used to endorse all the freaking out and had to learn that some it grew thin after repeated hearing (George Adams partly falls into that bag for me) and I got to more and more appreciate those musicians who bring some kind of organization into play - Threadgill for instance. But it is a never-ending and ultimately open debate for me as well, I guess.

Yeah, Dolphy was a Bird man ... somehow I still find it weird to consider him avantgarde. He was his own garde, firmly rooted, and I guess it's just that which allowed him to go where he went the way he did. Love that "genius in the key of C" line, haven't heard it before (or forgot) - I think it's not too far from truth. But obviously Ornette was and remains firmly rooted just as well, albeit in a very different manner from Dolphy. Knowing changes ... makes me think of Shepp recently, just freaking out. Why the hell play Ellington and "Yesterday" if you have no effin' clue about them changes, Sir? He also sang "Don't Get Around Much Anymore" without bothering about the meloday whatsoever ... sure, the whiteys love him, but there's really not much to it - posturing, re-appropriation, whatever ... you can explain many a thing if you want to, but it might still grow pretty old after a while.