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This Mosaic Select is kicking my butt lately. Good stuff. The edition of Expansions herein sounds better than the original 80's reissue on compact disc, which sounded awful to me. But it's the entire Cosmos session that has my attention right now. Andrew White might be the best soloist on oboe that I've ever heard. I generally can't stand "jazz" oboists (Bob Cooper, Yusef Lateef, Ken McIntyre, etc.), but White plays the shit out of it. A little surprised there hasn't been more buzz about this Select ... :bwallace2: :bwallace2:

Hmmm ... is the work solid enough to become a Mosaic Select? If it's all on a par with Wayfaring Stranger, or close to it, I'd be in. Heck, if we can have a Freddie Slack Mosaic Select ...

I hope this box is still in the works. Anyone heard anything about it?

I actually listened to that disc twice over the weekend. It's one of my favorite Ornette sessions from the 70's. (I agree with you, by the way: "Is that an alto? No, wait, a tenor? Alto?") The melody for "Human Being" is so simple and yet unusually haunting. Few musicians can pull that off. Ornette seems like a natural at that. Oh, and his trumpet playing matured quite a bit in the ten years since the recording with Jackie!

Ornette on tenor really is something else. When musicians record on instruments that aren't their "primary" horn, the results are often just "interesting," but this one far exceeds that ambiguous tag. I wonder, when it initially came out, what other tenor players' reactions were.

The sound quality, or the overall packaging/presentation quality? I was thinking about picking this one up. Too bad it's a boot. The album I'd really like to hear is Crisis. I have Ornette at 12, but have been told it pales in comparison to Crisis. I wonder if Ornette or Ornette's estate will ever have his Impulse! sessions (or the complete Town Hall recordings) see reissue light.

Legal issues aside, if there was ever a logical time for Legacy/Columbia to reissue this set, it would be now. Ornette now has a Grammy and Pulitzer to his name — buzz words for better or worse — and interest in his back catalog might be at a peak. You can actually fit the 2-disc set onto one disc — mine clocks in at 79:48 I think. This would lower production costs, I'm guessing. At any rate, I just listened to all four parts of the suite back-to-back a few days ago — uninterrupted! — and was blown away all over again. Chappaqua Suite is not only undervalued in my opinion, but I think it has Charles Moffett's most elegant playing (with Ornette) on record. On the Golden Circle recordings, Moffett sounds like a basher — exuberant, but with a fondness for thrashing away at his ride cymbal, and generally staying at one consistent dynamic level (i.e. "loud"). On Chappaqua Suite, he really steers the band (trio and orchestra) with a finer delicacy, changing tempi at times not unlike (in spirit at least) Tony Williams. It probably won't happen, but a U.S. release, done right, would be another fine honor for Ornette. Of course, Ornette himself would probably be against the project.

To start, here's a thread on Steig's Firefly. I'm listening to Steig's Wayfaring Stranger for the first time as I type this, and it's a lot better than I expected. I'm actually surprised that Cuscuna hasn't chosen this one for reissue yet. I think it would actually make a good RVG! Though certainly more "laid back," it makes me think at times of Odyssey of Iska. I don't know much about Steig except that he was William Steig's son. Did he make a second Blue Note date? Eddie Gomez is perfect for the setting on Wayfaring Stranger. Warmly recommended (— so far. I haven't yet finished the debut listen!).

I thought at first some live recordings of Roy Eldridge had been unearthed. :rsmile:

The hidden track from the 2000 edition isn't really a "song" per se. It's essentially 2:30 of false starts, studio chatter, and Bob Thiele calling out take #s. The only interesting element for me is hearing Coltrane talk to Ali. I guess, initially, Ali was going to play bells as well as his kit, but Coltrane says something to the effect of: "Here, I'll do it" — that's about it as far as I can tell; I couldn't get the disc to rewind any further (past -2:30). For the hidden track alone, it's not worth updating. For the sound, and if you have a particular fondness for that session, I'd say, yes, it is worth updating. The sonic difference isn't huge, but on the later edition, and to my ears, Ali's drums come through with greater clarity. Overall, if you have the earlier edition and can spend the money elsewhere, I'd say do that.

The Complete Zoot Sims Pablo Sessions Disc 5.

That's what this board is all about. I think I'll go listen to Sun Ra's "UFO" now.

Disposability is. Not Sortie. If it were, I'd have purchased a copy.

I don't think Jim A will be psyched about a link to an illegal copy of an in-print CD. Guy Guy, I didn't realize it was in-print. I can delete that post if you like. I thought I was linking to a fairly hard-to-find Ellington album. (Shows you how much I know about what's in and out of print in regard to Duke.) I thought if people were happy to download it, it would show that downloads weren't so bad. That was my only point. Honest intentions, but it (essentially) backfired. L

Probably won't happen, but I hope I'm wrong! Of course, a person could use that link above to have it on CD®. No, wait! It's a download! Along with School Days from 1963, Sortie might be Lacy's best from the 60's. It's indeed a shame it's not better known. If I could write a check for, say, $15.99 to Irène Aëbi to have this as an actual CD, I'd do it in a heartbeat. She's sitting on so much un-reissued stuff that it's probably overwhelming.

E-Music, for one example, uses variable bit-rate, and all the CDs I've burned from their digital files sound good — even some of the needle-drops. The latest Coltrane Concord box, for example, sounds excellent. Right now, the only way to get, say, Bahia in good sound is to get that Concord box. If you don't want to buy it because you already have other albums (Soultrane, etc.) in that set in K-2 or what-have-you editions, downloading is a good option. I don't know too much about "lossless" digital files, but I'd suspect if the demand for them (.ogg files, .flac files) became more prevalent — and user-friendly for both PC and Mac — we'd see them available more readily.

Even more of a reason to check out Sortie. Aëbi's not on it! I like her singing, but can understand why others don't.

Sortie 1. Sortie 12:00 2. Black Elk 10:00 3. Helmy 2:20 4. Fork New York 14:00 5. Living T. Blues 3:40 6. 2-Fou 0:03 Steve Lacy: soprano saxophone Enrico Rava: trumpet Kent Carter: bass Aldo Romano: drums recorded February 7, 1966 Milan, Italy For my money, this record is stronger than both Disposability and The Forest and The Zoo. Excellent playing all around.

Finally found a copy! Some discs on Black Lion you still see regularly as cut-outs and in the used bins. Others are excruciatingly rare — e.g. Frank Lowe's Fresh, Mal Waldron's Blues for Lady Day, Dave Burrell's High Won, High Two, even Kenny Dorham's Osmosis.

I'm with you there. That whole record is a bitch. Coltrane seems to have brought out a little more fire in Red's playing. I like Garland's trio work, but I prefer the quintet work overall. I'm looking forward to Concord's next Coltrane boxes — there're supposed to be at least two more, I think, after Intrepid Warrior: the sideman dates, and the co-leader dates. The leader dates in the new box have great sound, and it will be nice to hear the Garland/Coltrane sessions improved sonically. I think Donald Byrd acquits himself fairly well in the Garland/Coltrane quintets, but wouldn't it have been nice to hear a young Lee Morgan instead?

Hi All, I have been trying to track down this set for years. It's out-of-print, but a copy is probably lying in a classical store, somewhere, just waiting for a home. I have the early 80's version of The Arditti performing Scelsi's Four String Quartets, but would very much like to hear this new (2000) package with Scelsi's final string quartet added. The music is phenomenal. I'm looking for a new or used-in-good-condition copy. I will cover cost and shipping. Any help much appreciated. Thank you! Late ------------------ The Arditti series on Disques Montaigne all come in paper sleeves. A few were reissued in jewel cases, but I'll take either format as long as the discs are in good shape.

Personally, I'm waiting for the Mosaic Select. The news is on the down-low, but I hear there's all kinds of bonus tracks. First things first, though — by that I mean the RVG of Lawrence Millman's A Kayak Full of Ghosts.

I knew we were something. Now I know. Congrats on 20 years!

Whenever you read about Booker Ervin, you inevitably bump into a phrase that reads something like this: "Booker Ervin's Texas Tenor with its distinct cry ..." Well, I start to get after reading the word "cry" in association with Booker too many times, but ... damn! Listen to the track "African Cookbook" from the album of the same name. That "cry" finally amounts to something meaningful. One of Booker's best, and simplest, solos ever, I'd say. The whole track is a bitch. Get the album if you're a Weston fan and don't have it. And, yeah, the Black Lion ... it's harder to find these days, but worth the hunt.

Well, Ornette is partial to French Roast, while Dewey usually drinks Italian Roast. Ornette says something about Italian Roast being too thin, and then (off-mike but still audible) Dewey mumbles "Like your reeds?"