Brad

Dr J., You raise some good points, which have discussed extensively, although I don't know if this thread is necessarily the right place for it. Whether this set is in the public domain (50 years in Europe) probably depends on the discography, as you've suggested. It's my understanding that Definitive gets a real black eye not because they're taking things that are in the public domain, but particular presentations of material in the public domain and copying them: the Bailey from Mosaic and the Mingus from Uptown or putting out presentations that other companies might have done. I believe Chuck had said that Spotlite was going to put an edition of Fruscella before Definitive got in the act. Viewed in this regard, Proper might not be viewed all that differently from Definitive. What is a shame that Mosaic couldn't do this.

I was hoping to get the Edmond Hall, James Johnson Blue Note set but the way bidding is going, it looks like I may have to pass. $200 on that one seems realistic.

That seller, Chameleon Collection, has some nice stuff. I've bought from him before, a Storyville Vic Dickinson cd, and no complaints.

If this is material in the public domain (remember Europe has different laws on this than we do), what's the big deal? Past Perfect has put out a nice 10 cd box of Count Basie. I'm sure it's not "legit" from a US point of view but it sounds great and if it's legit in Europe, I don't see a problem.

In one paragraph, Chris summarized much of what I was thinking. This book is chockful of information but sometimes I wonder if throwing the kitchen sink at you is the best way to go. Ultimately, it's the assumptions that he made that bothered me and I was glad to hear Chris echo that. One example that came to mind was the author's statement that Lester Young knew other instruments well (or something like that) and not just saxophones. As proof of that, he cited a photo looking admiringly at someone playing the piano. I found that to be a great leap of faith.

This one's on Ebay right now: Ammons/Lewis

I'm not sure this qualifies, but how about Drums Around the Corner. There's some fervent playing on there. Moanin' was my introduction to the JMs and it's not just good, it's Great!

I have Dish Network. You can get the local networks, if you pay a little more. It beats cable, which was going out. Haven't had many outages. I'd like to have the Weather Channel local and the YES Network, which has the Yankees (even though I'm not a Yankee fan). But I have no complaints. I got it mostly so I could get Fox Sports World, which has the English Premier League and the Bundesliga. Translated, that's the english and german soccer leagues for you uneducated sports fans.

Kevin, Unfortunately, I wasn't as patient as you. I gave it one listen, put it in the ebay pile, gave it another half hearted listen and out it went. You're probably right. I might have been to quick on the trigger finger.

Aside from the compilation (image posted by Couw), there's not a lot of Sonny's Argo work out on cd. Notable exceptions are Sonny Stitt, Interaction, At the DJ Lounge and Soul in the Night (which is not very good IMHO). I'd love to see My Main Man in cd. Picked up the LP after I heard the few cuts on the compilation. DJ Lounge is a must. It really burns.

Thanks. Sorry to have been a pain in the ass about this but I never had the 1987 reissue, just the box.

Trust me, I'm happy :rsmile: Just trying to figure this out and thank you Ed for helping me with my faulty memory. Now, this gets back to the basic question. There are 2 alternates on the forthcoming RVG. One may be Someone in Love and the other is ____. Any ideas?

One of these tunes is not on the Dex box because the discography makes a point about that. Unfortunately, I can't remember which right now. An online discography, Our Man in Paris, indicates that Our Love is Here to Stay is on Blue Note BT 84430. I assume that's a Dex-less song as well and that both of these song are under Bud's leadership. I assume we'll find out the answer in a week.

Claude, thanks. I guess they'll be new to me since I've only had 2 version of this date. Do you know if the alternates of Our Man in Paris have been out before?

I was looking at the jazzmatazz site last night and noticed that the Blue Train and Our Man in Paris RVGs coming out next week include alternate takes. Hadn't noticed this before. Have these been out before? I've owned the MFSL and the JRVG of Blue Train and no alternates there. Also, the Dex box doesn't have any alternate takes for Our Man in Paris. I was going to skip over these but I'll pick them up now for sure next week.

I was dying to pick this one up after hearing the Willette, which really grabbed my attention. He was every bit as good on his recording. Shame, there's not more out there of his, either as sideman or leader. Same goes for Harold Vick, although I believe there's a few more dates where he's a sideman.

Yup, that Verve list ain't that much to get excited about although in all honesty, the reissues from about a month ago weren't bad: Sonny Stitt, Billy Mitchell, Nat Adderley. They do put out a lot of junk though. As we've said before, thank god for Japan.

The music on this is so fine it's eye popping. I particularly dug Speakin' My Piece and On the Spur of the Moment with the Turrentines, especially Oh So Blue.

Two that come to mind are Mobley's Thinking of Home and a better example, Mose Allison's Back Country Suite, which is a heck of a recording, with Mose Allison (p), Taylor La Fargue (bass) and Frank Isola (ds).

Thank you Hans and Jim for posting that. Don't know why I couldn't find it. There are some real classics in there. Since he's a dealer he obviously know what he's doing because some of those prices will start climbing soon. If what he says about the condition is true (and based upon his perfect feedback there's no reason to doubt him), it can only make you water. Anyone who doesn't have the DeFranco-Clark box ought to seriously think about this one. One of the great Mosaic boxes. Buddy is under appreciated and his playing on these records, chorus after chorus after chorus, makes you shake your head in wonderment.

Do you have a link. I didn't see 'em on Ebay today.

I can echo about Volume 3 about being hard to find. It also has fetched a handsome price on Ebay when it shows up there.

I'm glad to see everybody's back. As we get older, more things happen to us. I have a bad back but it's not cancer. BTW, Tod Irzyk (Out to Lunch) has been going through a tough time lately with chemo as well. So I'm sure a few pm or emails would be appreciated. He'll probably kill me for mentioning this but he's a hell of a good guy and livens up this board.

montg beat me to it. Jazz Review is the best. They have some darn good articles in there and they review or advertise some albums that I'd like to get and wouldn't see in the other two. I've never liked DB and while I get JT, I generally find it a waste of time. I let Cadence lapse but they have some good interviews in there. I need to reup. Plus, I like the Scott Yanow reviews on the reissues.

The Powell for sure. That's on the top of the list. I'll be getting the Henderson and maybe the Shorter. Have the others.