Niko

Getz makes it clear that Hubbard wasn't sober in the relevant moment... she also appears on some of Grimes' first recordings after his return in 2004... btw, she is still quite active on Facebook... and I don't think I want to be sober when she and Clifford talk politics...

have you read her story or listened to it? It's not like that incident made it into the blurb describing the book or that she tried to get anything out of it - at least not that I know of.... I wouldn't generalize to all women always, but this case here just seems totally plausible... I mean, if she would have wanted to do the maximum possible damage to Hubbard with a fairy tale, she would have changed a few things (like not wait until he's dead, make the attempted rape a rape, and replace Henry Grimes by Scott Holt or some other person that was no longer available at the time of writing). And now you can say that this was all strategic... but that is the point where you need to find more evidence that her book is unreliable. In addition, it's not like she has an obligation to identify other victims with similar stories before she can talk about something in her autobiography. His family could have sued... but maybe they thought the story was plausible, too.

knowing my fairy tales, it hurts to see the statue cropped at the first animal... either have the whole thing with all four animals in there or show two animals which then gives four musicians counting Kloss and Miles... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_Musicians_of_Bremen

for months Dan Gould has kept us all updated about recent developments regarding the Phil Schaap archive, wondering why almost nobody reacted even though there's stuff in there that would have caused quite a stir in the glory days of this board... so, I was mostly commenting on stuff that happens elsewhere on this board - while at the same time pointing out a pretty cool live recording to Patton fans... here's the link, I doubt that many people had access to it until very recently... https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/133113

I guess that spoken word thing is her reading the relevant passage from her autobiography... of course, we can never know for certain... but she really doesn't come across as someone who would get a kick out of inventing a highly detailed Freddie Hubbard anecdote just to grab attention... and she doesn't say anywhere that you should stop listening to your Freddie Hubbard records... she does come across as someone who knows perfectly well that she could be sued for libel and decided the risks were negligible... she also mentions witnesses in her story like Henry Grimes who was still alive at the time the book came out... what she does say is that after this incident she stopped seeing her future as a star on the NY jazz scene or the jazz scene overall... look at the start she had, working with John Handy, Pony Poindexter, Pharoah Sanders, Mingus, Grant Green, Jackie McLean, Freddie Hubbard and others ... I had actually wondered myself earlier what had made her quit that scene... children I'd assumed... turns out that it was what we would nowadays call a toxic or hostile environment... and there's a reason why we say that nowadays

It's 17 years later... But I got that album, Bud Freeman Esq, some time last year and played it quite a bit, it's excellent imho

On spotify and similar platforms you can find a track called "Ready for Freddy" by Kama Ruby with spoken words by Jane Getz where she tells the story in great detail (the attempted rape is around the 10 minute mark but the rest about sitting in with Jackie McLean at Smalls etc etc is, of course, also interesting)

oops, just sent my sister who lives in Vienna birthday greetings, referring to the "not so great weather"... should have done my homework a bit better

Which was a big public service, I've consulted that thesis quite a bit over the years ... Btw, I hope you've all checked out that tape from the digitized Phil Schaap collection with Patton, Bill Saxton (ts, the leader), Charles Sullivan(tp) and Eddie Gladden(dr)

Just playing The Cry again... When I bought it, the salesperson already commented on the great sound (and, of course, it's also a pleasure to have a physical store in walking distance where a record like this doesn't arrive unnoticed)... It's been a favorite record for a long time, normally I'm not in the market for fancy reissues of things I already have on CD...

Got this one yesterday and have to fully agree...

my feelings as well, literally almost fell asleep when I heard the trio with Crispell at Jazz in Middelheim in 2017... I also like other Motian records better than those with Lovano... One album with Lovano that works very well for me is Stolas from John Zorn's Book of Angels with Lovano basically taking Zorn's place in Masada and Uri Caine added on piano, giving an Eastern-tinged Hard Bop Sound that's a bit reminiscent of those nice Dusko Goykovich albums...

RIP

The original liner notes speak about "grand old veteran Jo Jones" so if there is an error, it must have happened internally at Prestige back in the day...

Ah, I'd forgotten he was behind "I remember bebop" as well ... That 10in LP is indeed one of those sessions, with Milt Jackson, Al Cohn, JJ Johnson.... There's a track where Milt Jackson sings that's been missing on most later reissues (and I can kind of see why)

I am pretty sure I read somewhere that they were married.... Will try to remember where... maybe I just remembered what I considered most plausible

I don't know the book so don't know what's in it.... I recently stumbled upon this webpage which has among others "An Annotated Tentative Personnelo - Discography" of Henderson's bands in several volumes... https://www.harlem-fuss.com/bands.html

yes, I love that cover, too... it was one of those moments that make you love record stores, you walk in and then right by the door is this beautiful record you've never even heard of, with a lineup composed from some of your favorite scenes (Belgium: Quersin, Netherlands: Ilcken, didn't record much, France: Solal, Bay Area: Dickie Mills...) in half-decent condition for a really nice price... I actually had another experience like that recently, quite a similar record, in a way... playing that now

Jazz on the Left Bank a recent lunchtime find, Martial Solal is by far the biggest name in the group, it's nice cool jazz album... 20 years later the same designer would make the cover art for Keith Jarrett's Birth

never even heard of him - I started following jazz only in the second half of the 1990s when his and Klatt's stars had almost faded ... and then left Germany before his comeback...

Iirc this is not one of my two Extra Ball albums but yes, they were a really good band

Klatt is pretty much forgotten even home in Germany, I discovered him by accident a few years ago and have really liked everything I heard, I have four of his albums by now and some more sideman work, one of the very few people in German jazz of the 80s and 90s that interest me... there's a nice documentary about him but even native English speakers Marty Cook and Paul Grabowsky are forced to speak German in there (which they do extremely well) edit/ps: around the 1:00 mark of the movie (not this youtube video), you can hear a frustrated Peter Wiessmueller (Enja/Tutu) present some of the Klatt records he was involved with including Elephantrombones but especially the last one, a digipack CD where Klatt insisted on a non-rectangular shape and on putting a different little artwork on every single copy...

Those three LPs are favorites over here!

https://jazz.fm/verve-records-announces-new-charlie-parker-album/ some more info here, Phil Baxter is apparently a Kansas city friend of Charlie Parker. According to the track list given there, the first seven tracks were recorded at Baxter's home, just alto with bass and drums, the other six are as mhatta writes above