Niko

Re early horn players from outside New Orleans (and the San Francisco angle, and Dallas) how about Reb Spikes (wiki)? (I started reading Tom Stoddard's Barbary Coast about early (1910-15) SF jazz earlier this year but then switched to the Gushee book but haven't gotten back to Stoddard yet... fascinating stuff)

Just had a look at the Dutch newspapers from back then... no further concerts in the Netherlands at that time it seems

Agreed

thinking of lists, a really curious one are the New Age Grammies from 1987 to now, with winners like Pat Metheny, Yusef Lateef, Jack deJohnette, Paul Winter of course, Stewart Copeland...

will check it out (so far, the best I've heard by the two was Ross's Parable of the Poet last year, I also kind of liked the quartet albums by Peter Evans and Theo Hill that you played recently, as well as the In Common album with Ross... but nothing comes close to that gig)

yes, that Marquis Hill album has grown on me as well... but the best live band I've seen in a while was Hill's quartet with Joel Ross recently... I wish there'd be a record by that group that can compete with he concert I saw...

There was some discussion of how to extract data from Discogs here recently iirc... there's also the option of using the discographies on jazzdisco.org, maybe nicely asking them about the underlying database ... those visualization tools are relatively easy to use, for a start they just need a big matrix with zeros and ones for the connections... I don't think it's more than a week of work

My dad was making those pictures when I was a kid in the 90s and I've always been fond of them (even though I have some doubts how much you learn from them)... have been thinking about doing some Jazz social network analysis for a long time, maybe just start with the discographies of the great hard bop labels and then see how people enter and leave the network, collaborate, bring in others, learn who was central to the networks of Prestige, Riverside and Blue Note at which points in time....it feels like something I might do in retirement (still over two decades to go...)

Ok, so the original publication was by Sam Donahue in his collection "Tenor Saxophone Styles" published in 1944... the tunes contained in it were Kelly's stable blues, by Coleman Hawkins.--Hi heckler, by Lester Young.--Blues on the bias, by Don Byas.--Feed the kitty, by Eddie Miller.--Short juice, by Dave Matthews. and I guess the first main question is how Sam Donahue came up with the music, whether he transcribed stuff he had - or whether he just created something "in the style of"

In Lewis Porter's book (p.115) it says that Hi Heckler is a transcribed Young solo (not a tune ) that was first published in 1944 and then in 1964 in Dave Dexter's The Jazz Story (so that could have been your book as well). Porter doesn't say where it was first published and notes that it doesn't correspond to any known recording... But, of course, the book is from 1985... Anyway, Lewis Porter seems like the person to ask

I must admit I never quite got the intention without the comma but also never tried to hard: Were they trying to say "Next we present jazz ramwong" (as in "chicken teriyaki" or "jazz samba") or is the "now" a qualification of jazz like in TTK's "now sound"... The comma makes it clear that it's the former... (see also Ramwong)

I knew Rain Dogs fairly well when I first heard Swordfishtrombones, knew Greg Cohen a bit from his work with John Zorn... There's stuff that's just different when you live through history in it's linear way

Gil Evans plays Jimi Hendrix was one of my first 10, 20 CDs as a kid... at that stage, you accept every album for what it is... loved this one and played it over and over again... but haven't played it in years... Myself, I am just revisiting Swordfishtrombones for the first time in a long time and it seems that I'm finally ready

this is her son, Doug DeMontmorency, apparently a skateboarder of note [I am completely clueless on this topic], he tells quite a bit about his youth with her in the 1960s http://www.endlesslines.free.fr/ghost/ghostpages/ghostdougdemont1vo.htm going by this page on familysearch which mentions a woman named variously Betty Stitt, Betty Staufenberg and Kalina de Montmorency... and his memories of his mom playing with Stan Getz and Charlie Parker in Greenwich Village... If this identification is correct - which I am pretty sure it is - she lived from 29 April 1926 to 12 February 2007... (and on her 55th birthday, I was born). The name Staufenberg she took in 1951 - so this might the Chicago business man she married as remembered by Bill Crow, most likely one Charles W. Staufenberg Jr, born in 1926, one of their two joint children being Bruce V Staufenberg of Montecito CA

I know very little, too, but recently played this one and thought it was great:

Dick Grove - Little Bird Suite according to John William Hardy in his role as ornithologist, the cover photograph may well be the first published picture of an Aulocorhynchus Prasinus

The Bay Big Band – Plays Duke Ellington part of the Brussels world exhibition that also gave us the Atomium? Not quite sure, but the cover photo (by Ray Avery it says?!) is from the Belgian Congo Pavillion at the Brussels world fair... I guess the underlying story is that Belgian jazz musicians' expertise in playing Afro-American music had some of its roots Belgium's involvement in Congo? Those were different times... And, of course, despite the stereo sound, I guess you only need this if you are the most hopeless type of Ellington completist... the band is good, most of the musicians can also be heard on Jack Sels recordings from the time... but Ellington is impossible to cover well with a bunch of studio heroes

This Burns album I like a lot, I have it on a Japanese cd

no, on High on an open mike, like this LP, it's well Burns, but on the Burns album I posted above it's Peterson...

Funny story w the open mike ... Also thought of those early days of learning English again when there was this discussion of the Queen compilation for five year olds and the explicit lyrics... Had never thought of that problem because over here kids don't understand anything when they're small... In fact, being able to understand some of the lyrics is a major motivation for learning English.... have some Ralph Burns albums from the 1950s that I like a lot so I was first disappointed that on this album he only arranges while the rhythm section is Oscar Peterson, Ray Brown and Louis Bellson... But, of course, they do a fine job... The whole thing is - again unexpected when you read Peterson - a big band album with soloists like Roy Eldridge, Jimmy Hamilton, Flip Philips... Would have paid the 2€ for the cover alone but now I find myself playing this more than I expected

if they count, post-Syd Barrett Pink Floyd must also count

thanks for sharing the liner notes! so this would suggest that the tenorist below is Johnny Griffin provided it's the same version as here (and there's only one tenorist on the record) edit: we'd been there years ago, not Griffin was the crowd's verdict back then