Dan Gould

They say that confession is good for the soul, so here goes: When this reissue came out and a lot of people on the board went ape shit over it, I will be the first to admit that I was curious about it. At the same time, however, Chuck was being a major league pain in my ass and I had no interest in giving my money to him. So, I didn't pick this up. I still didn't want to give Chuck my money directly, but last week I added this to a Cadence order. My exposure to Warne had previously been limited to one of the Criss Cross CDs, but after giving All Music a couple of listens, I can definitely say that I am intrigued and will be spending more time with this one soon. Will I turn into a Warnophile? Can't tell yet, but I'm definitely glad I finally picked this up.

I think I picked this up during the last Barnes and Noble $3.99 Concord cut-out sale. Should be noted that while its on Concord, it was recorded in the sixties but not issued then. Don't recall off hand the story of how it got to be issued on Concord, but this isn't one of those Concord "recreate the past" type of dates.

Different and horrible! Purple and grey and downright yucky!

Indeed! Might I suggest, however, that for the next installment, or when you are finished with all of the typing, that we put this into one big post as the start of a new thread? I think a lot of people will want to read this article and it should properly accorded its own thread.

104th St and Central Park West, Chris? Guess ole Weizy isn't quite right, putting you as a high rent midtown kinda guy ...

There will be no cage for this guy, not for the rest of his life. This is Georgia, and there's no way he avoids the death penalty.

I hear Freddie as more "technical" and Lee as more "soulful". That and what Tom mentions, which I've also heard referred to as "smears" or "smearing notes." Definitely a Lee thing rather than a Hub thing.

Seeing this thread, I assumed that he is the "1ngram" who fills the Political Forum with views that make Johnny look like Jesse Helms (and its no surprise you'd miss him, Jim, as he posts in Politics at a rate that easily challenged Johnny's supremacy in that regard).

In whose favor?

And tjobbe, so is yours. B-)

Very surprising. But I'm sure though that they don't get any co-op advertising dollars from any label, so there isn't much to be done about them.

Yes ... in a reserve auction, bidders often bid "against" themselves because they're trying to determine what the reserve is. Same way, if someone bid $500 and then another bid $2000, which happened to be the reserve, that's where the price "jumps" to. Had the reserve been $2000.01, then the bid would have only been at an increment over $500. That's a problem with ebay's system: it seems to me, in reserve auctions, bids should show at the maximum bid, up to the reserve. If I bid $500, and someone else bids $750, and the reserve is $800, why should the "high" bid be $505? It should be $750, and "Reserve Not Met" and now you know that the reserve is up there, somewhere above $750. Beyond the reserve, than the usual bid display rules should apply.

If he was the guy who wrote that pimp aesthetic piece, its gonna take quite a bit to make me want to read a Monk biography.

Yeah, that would explain why one of my favorite box sets is the Lester Young Verve set.

BTW, nice to know he has both "some repute" and "an impressive reputation" ... who the hell wrote that synopsis?

No indication of tunes or sidemen?

I'd take what Brad says and multiply it by 100. If he were my kid ... well, that wouldn't be my kid.

The Art Farmers are quite nice.

I think Bruce may be right - my former boss, a Mass. native, always called it "Boston Chicken."

Or share the obsessive, anally retentive interest. All we're doing is adding what we ourselves know. Who cares if its documented elsewhere?

They reunited several times before that tour, I think Mickey Tucker played piano, at least on the studio recordings. Edited clarification: Not that I'm insinuating that you were suggesting that your tour was the only reunion. Just clarifying that there were other reunions.

Well, I was motivated to pull this one out again, and I have a few observations: First, no doubt that it is not top-flight Hank - an obvious reason why its not something I've listened to in quite a while. Second, since Jim has made such a strong assertion about "Early Morning Stroll" I decided to A/B it with its original recording on The Flip, and no doubt, this is not the same jaunty morning constitutional. Not sure I'm ready to go so far with the "hard bop fuck you" description though. As far as breath issues go, I definitely do not hear them. Listening closely to Hank's exclamations during his solo on "Summertime," those hollers come right after the phrase before. How does a guy who's running out of breath have the air in his lungs to exclaim something right as the reed comes out of his mouth? Lastly, I have to say that I think that Hank's performance on "Summertime" is really quite good. Bertrand mentioned above that he thought that the cadenza at the start is just the opening to the "Thinking of Home" Suite, and after A/B-ing it, he is correct. Only I think its performance here is far superior. Not pretty, but certainly not ugly. And as far as breath issues goes, listen from 1:04 to 1:40. That is not a man with breath problems. Overall, I think its the best cut on the album.

The probability is fairly high. To the second question, Yes, yes and yes.

I concede a bit to you on the short term public shame part of it, but on the money side, for multi-millionnairre ball players, loss of 10 day or 30 day pay is nothing. Let's say we've got someone making 8 million a year. Its paid out over six months, which is 1.3 million dollars a month. You don't think a player will pay attention to that hit? I guarantee they'll feel that hit a heckuva lot worse than the slap on the wrist $50,000 fines MLB gives out for a little brawl.

Well, I agree that steroids are part of that picture but there is no way that you can ignore other factors: smaller parks diluted pitching players who work out year round (and aren't all juicing either) and are in better shape than the vast majority of the players of yesteryear. Which brings me to this, in today's NYT: Mike Schmidt Dismisses Steroids - HRs Link By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: March 6, 2005 Filed at 5:18 p.m. ET FORT MYERS, Fla. (AP) -- Mike Schmidt refused to blame steroids for the increase in home runs in the major leagues -- or for his diminishing stature on the career homer list. ``Leave steroids out of it,'' Schmidt said Sunday. ``There's a simple explanation why the home run totals are what they are, and the guys that are hitting would agree with me -- it's park size, hard baseballs and hard bats.'' Since the Hall of Fame third baseman retired in 1989 with the seventh-most home runs (548), he has been passed by four players -- Barry Bonds (703), Mark McGwire (583), Sammy Sosa (574) and Rafael Palmeiro (551). Several others could move ahead of Schmidt in the next five years. ``Guys are passing me like I was a car on the freeway,'' said Schmidt, a spring training instructor for the Philadelphia Phillies. Schmidt estimates the smaller ballparks and the equipment help elite power hitters add 10-12 home runs more per season than those of his generation -- or about 150 more career homers. But he's quick to note that he isn't bitter over the evolution of the longball. ``That's an honest answer. That's not a chip on the shoulder (or) an old timer whining about things,'' Schmidt said. ``We're not blaming the kids that are playing the game now. They are great hitters. They are further along fundamentally as hitters at this point in their careers than we were in the old days. Everything is better about the game now. They are bigger, stronger and they work out harder.'' Schmidt also insists these changes make it harder to compare players from different eras. ``We all know any discussion about whether Henry Aaron is a better hitter than Barry Bonds is ridiculous because of the conditions under which both played,'' he said. ``The environment in which they played is so totally different, you can't compare.'' **************************** Now, I would not go as far as Schmidt does, but to assert that the home run totals of the last ten years are entirely due to steroids is a bit much.