Dan Gould

Thanks for posting Tom.

Well I received the comp that made me wonder and post about the thread topic. Appears that for "A Little 3/4 for God and Country" they made a pretty smooth edit straight to Stanley Turrentine's solo, so not only no "new" Frank Haynes but no Frank Haynes at all. One More Hamhock Please is really odd though and I am concluding that they did a remarkable editing job ... Amy's solo is about 50 seconds on the comp - much longer on the track that was issued. It actually lines up more or less perfectly, but on the CD issued track, there's a sort of a Blakey press roll into the piano solo, and same thing on the edited version. But there was no press roll at that point in Amy's solo, so as near as I can tell they cross-faded Amy out, because the press roll leading into the piano solo is present on the version on the comp. Very artfully done. How many channels were they recording at the PJ studio back then? Or maybe in 1978 they had more channels to work with when they edited it down. (Glad I only spent $8 including shipping on this record.)

I already know they are ... I own the record, ironically enough. Oh well the show should be good to hear anyway. Thanks.

Thank you for going above and beyond!

Nobody can help me out?

I keep going off topic but as long as hearing aids have to be sold thru licensed professionals, like audiologists, it ought to be a great field to go into. How long has it been since you first pulled up to someone at a stoplight whose music made the body of your car shake, rattle and hum? The number of old people needing hearing aids is probably constant (as a percentage) but then think about all the people who wreck/are wrecking/have wrecked their hearing because of their car stereo system.

Not quite the same thing but what about large-ish groups on small club stages? On a trip to NYC in the early 2000s, my wife and I went up to Smoke to see the George Coleman Octet. What I remember most is how tall Harold Mabern was, folded over his piano, and how Gary Smulyan was placed right next to Jim Rotundi and when they both played, Smulyan did it one-handed due to that piercing tone of Rotundi's right next to his ear.

Well for one thing, "you got to be in it to win it," as the old ads used to say, and the cost of admission is $1-2 vs a helluva lot more, to win the same money trading stocks. Unless, you know, there's a $2 share of stock you can buy that will magically turn into $200 million.

Can anyone help me out by going to this page: https://www.wnyc.org/story/phil-schaaps-50-year-career-the-raconteur-raised-on-jazz/ and trying to "listen" to the broadcast? I am not sure if its a technical problem on my end or that this show is not available for streaming, but I would really like to hear the two George Kelly and the Jazz Sultans tunes that were played. Thanks in advance!

That's interesting, did not know his booking career got interrupted. Obviously the West End brought him back in fairly short order. I really wish I could find the article I saw that went into depth about both the West End and the steadiness of the WKCR broadcasts from the club. Thanks.

I did hear of the Third Phase in my newspaper searching, but not sure why you are calling it a post-West End club in that time frame? I had a Schaap profile putting him in charge of booking the West End from something like 1973 to late 80s at least, maybe into 1990 with the West End Gate. And all thru those years WKCR was doing Friday night broadcasts from the West End. BTW that Jazz Session graphic was for Phil's record label - I got the whole set of 45s from Phil's website about a year and a half ago. Like the West End, many recordings by swing guys who weren't getting many opportunities. WKCR tried to play some of those 45s Friday night, some were in really rough shape.

Yes, it's called audio editing software. I use Goldwave and run a mini plug from my headphone plug to my line-in and record away.

What a nearly complete waste of air time. One highlight: They had a single solitary show broadcast from the West End, from 1985, a quartet led by Ruby Braff. Among the lowlights: An announcer who didn't know her ass from her elbow, going by one name, presumably for plausible deniability that she was ever on the air. My favorite mispronunciation: "We just heard "TOOK-see-doh Junction ..." Completely unprepared to talk with any authority about the West End or Phil's role there, when there are articles about it easily findable on the web (well, I just looked and the articles are a bit crowded out by his obits but still ... she had a subject for her broadcast and barely did anything to prepare for it.) And the real disappointment is only having a single, 35 minute tape from an actual broadcast from the club. Was this due to an inability to search the archive properly due to Covid restrictions or because of all the tapes they found, Braff's was the only one judged to be worthy of broadcast due to tape degradation?

Can't wait to roll "tape" just before 9 pm and then find out what was broadcast from the West End first thing tomorrow. These are club concerts not heard ever except by the broadcast audience and the patrons "live" at the club (I'm assuming). I'd give my left nut for a complete Percy France show. (I'll give your left nut for one Percy tune).

Nobody tell Chewy.

I laughed, then I realized there probably is such a thing as a Vegan Pet shop.

Yeah but part of that was my original post and thread title not being as specific. Otherwise I'm sure Mark wouldn't have hit us with 100 Donald Byrd's in like three year's time.

Should have added "Calendar Year".

Not only, but how about first year's recordings, too? Should have put it that way. Clearly I didn't state this very well and I wish I could just start a new thread. First recording year, sideman only. My simple point was that Frank Haynes started very fast and made great records especially for someone almost entirely forgotten.

So I decided to put a Frank Haynes compilation together - a single MP3 disc of all known recordings, in chronological order. (Here's a great source about his discography - since he doesn't solo at all on two of the known recordings, I am excluding them - helpful since I don't own them either: http://www.jazzarcheology.com/frank_haynes/ ) Anyway I looked at those first recordings, and what a year Frank Haynes had in 1961. March - Dave Bailey Reaching Out session with Billy Gardner and Grant Green - later reissued under Grant's name as Green Blues on Muse. October - Dave Bailey Bash with Kenny Dorham, Curtis Fuller - later reissued as Osmosis under KD's leadership. October - Dave Bailey Two Feet in the Gutter session with Bill Hardman. December - Les McCann In New York with Blue Mitchell and Stanley Turrentine. What do you all think? And can anyone think of a single year in which a soloist was on so many excellent sessions? (Let's say for the sake of argument that we eliminate all "rhythm section" members discographies. I'm talking reeds/horns/guitarists, not pianists/bass/drums. (Now watch, I am sure there are calendar years where Hank, Lee and many others have been as productive. But I bet some or all were leader dates and these are all sideman.)

This is a major challenge, and quite a bit different from regular BFTs. I mean, I knew that some of my choices were off the beaten track, but we did have more than a few well-known artists - just in most cases obscure recordings. I cannot recall a compiler telling people "There are only three well known musicians among the people playing, so it's not about guessing, anyway." I thought BFTs were actually all about guessing, as well some engagement with the music, at the depth that the individual participant feels comfortable or motivated for. Personally I listened thru, found few songs that I actively disliked, and few songs that I actively liked either. So I don't have much to post. Good luck Mike. I hope you get the participation you are hoping for.

Sad to hear but their music and influence lives on.

The Hollyday Brothers LP is free to a good home. VG++ vinyl/NM cover. First to PM me gets it.

Details of WKCR Schaap Tribute posted. (I've bolded what is most important to me, I am desperately hoping for a Percy France show but anything from the West End is likely to be memorable.) PHIL SCHAAP TRIBUTE BROADCAST FEBRUARY 1ST - FEBRUARY 6TH 2022 TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 1, 2022 - 6:00PM TO SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 2022 - 11:59PM WKCR presents a 126-hour long Phil Schaap tribute broadcast, beginning 6pm Tuesday February 1st and running continuously for five full days through midnight, Sunday February 6. Phil passed away on September 7, 2021 at the age of 70. For over 50 years he was the guiding light and spiritual leader of jazz programming at our radio station. His death affected us all dearly, but we have gathered ourselves to honor him the way he taught us to do for all jazz luminaries, with a long running in depth radio broadcast. The Tribute will touch on all aspects of Phil’s career, but especially his radio broadcasts. As the cornerstone of the Tribute, we will be playing Phil’s most popular shows from the WKCR archives, such as Traditions In Swing, Birthday Broadcasts, Phil’s interviews with jazz legends, Bird Flight, Out To Lunch, and excerpts from our Festivals. The program will also feature some of Phil’s contributions to other aspects of the jazz community, as an educator, record producer, sound engineer, record vault researcher, concert producer at the West End Cafe, and so much more. We will play representative musical selections to acknowledge these many activities. Furthermore, the program will allow us to reminisce in tempo to include interviews with figures from the jazz world, panel discussions with WKCR colleagues from across the decades, testimonials from listeners, and other features. Tune into 89.9 FM NY and stream on wkcr.org to join us in the celebration. Programming Schedule: (Please note all times are approximate) TUESDAY 2/1 6:00 PM: Jazz Alternatives with Sharif Abdus-Salaam from 9/16/2021, where Phil Schaap is interviewed by Sharif Abdus-Salaam 9:00 PM: Jazz Profiles 50th Anniversary, originally broadcast 2/2/2020 WEDNESDAY 2/2 12:00 AM: Bird Flight from 12/7/2017, Phil explores Charlie Parker's first issued records, the Decca singles of Jay McShann and His Orchestra. 1:15 AM: Bird Flight from 8/2/2018, Phil explores the recordings of the June 22, 1945 Town Hall concert that featured Diz and Bird. 2:45 AM: WKCR DJ Sam Seliger plays selected recordings produced by Phil Schaap 5:00 AM: Bird Flight from 3/27/2018, this show begins a series focusing on Charlie Parker's working band, the Golden Era BeBop 5, and the recordings of their broadcasts from the Royal Roost in 1948 and 1949. 6:20 AM: Bird Flight from 4/3/2018, this show continues a series focusing on Charlie Parker's working band, the Golden Era BeBop 5, and the recordings of their broadcasts from the Royal Roost in 1948 and 1949. 7:40 AM: Bird Flight from 12/1/2014, part one of a Bird Flight pair focusing on the relationship between Bird and fellow Bop alto saxophonist Sonny Criss. Their performance of "Liza" recorded June 16, 1952, at The Tradewinds, Inglewood,C.A., is explored. 9:00 AM: Bird Flight from 12/3/2014, part two of a Bird Flight pair focusing on the relationship between Bird and fellow Bop alto saxophonist Sonny Criss. Their performance of "Liza" recorded June 16, 1952, at The Tradewinds, Inglewood,C.A., is explored. 10:30 AM: Matthew Rivera interviews Phil Schaap, intermixed with some recordings Phil produced 12:00 PM: Out to Lunch from 1/21/2013, Phil celebrates Martin Luther King, Jr. Day by playing the earliest integrated Jazz records. 3:30 PM: Festival Archival featuring Howard McGhee 5:00 PM: Festival Archival featuring Earle Warren 6:00 PM: Festival Archival featuring Roy Eldridge 6:30 PM: Traditions in Swing from 10/28/2017, the first in a 16 part series of shows covering the complete recorded works of tenor saxophonist Leon "Chu" Berry, with the solos excerpted and recordings played in best sound. 9:30 PM: Matthew Rivera interviews bandleader and bassist Vince Giordano. 10:30 PM: Phil Schaap, a retrospective: Part 1. Join WKCR alumni Sharif Abdus-Salaam, Elliot Bratton, Mitch Goldman, William Goldberg, Sid Gribetz, Eddie Karp, Jamie Katz, Cliff Preiss, and Ed Scarvalone for a conversation reflecting on the life and work of Phil Schaap. THURSDAY 2/3 12:30 AM: WKCR DJ Maria Shaughnessy plays selected recordings produced by Phil Schaap 3:00 AM: Bird Flight from 11/17/2010, the first of a six part series on the Norman Granz record date of early spring 1949 which produced recordings of "Cardboard" and "Visa". 4:20 AM: Bird Flight from 11/18/2010, the second of a six part series on the Norman Granz record date of early spring 1949 which produced recordings of "Cardboard" and "Visa". 5:40 AM: Bird Flight from 11/19/2010, the third of a six part series on the Norman Granz record date of early spring 1949 which produced recordings of "Cardboard" and "Visa". 7:00 AM: Bird Flight from 11/23/2010, the fourth of a six part series on the Norman Granz record date of early spring 1949 which produced recordings of "Cardboard" and "Visa". 8:20 AM: Bird Flight from 11/24/2010, the fifth of a six part series on the Norman Granz record date of early spring 1949 which produced recordings of "Cardboard" and "Visa". 9:40 AM: Bird Flight from 11/29/2010, the last of a six part series on the Norman Granz record date of early spring 1949 which produced recordings of "Cardboard" and "Visa". 11:00 AM: Selected listener and alumni tributes to Phil, intermixed with recordings produced by Phil 11:30 AM: Out to Lunch from 2/29/2016, Phil presents a show on soprano saxophonist Steve Lacy's earliest record dates as a leader. 2:45 PM: Festival Archival, in anticipation of the Billie Holiday Centennial Broadcast, Phil explores the early recordings of one of her most important influences, Ethel Waters. 6:00 PM: Traditions in Swing from 5/6/2017, the first of a five part series on the complete recordings of Herschel Evans, tenor saxophonist in the original Count Basie Orchestra, with a focus on the items on which he is featured. 9:10 PM: Sid Gribetz interviews drummer Kenny Washington 10:10 PM: Phil Schaap, a retrospective: Part 2. Join WKCR alumni Paul Burkey, Mitch Goldman, Charles Iselin, Cliff Preiss, Matthew Rivera, and Stephen Seliger for a conversation reflecting on the life and work of Phil Schaap. FRIDAY 2/4 12:00 AM: WKCR DJ Schuyler Rabbin-Birnbaum plays recordings produced by Phil Schaap, Schuyler will be playing two Duke Ellington Reissues: “Ellington at Newport 1956” and “Such Sweet Thunder.” 3:00 AM: WKCR DJ Matthew Rivera plays selected recordings produced by Phil Schaap 6:00 AM: WKCR DJ Ed Scarvalone plays selected recordings produced by Phil Schaap 9:00 AM: WKCR DJ Paul Burkey plays selected recordings produced by Phil Schaap, Paul will be playing Benny Goodman at Carnegie Hall and the 9/18/49 Jazz at the Philharmonic concert 12:00 PM: WKCR DJ Charles Iselin plays selected recordings produced by Phil Schaap, Charles will be playing Louis Armstrong Hot fives and sevens recordings. 3:00 PM: WKCR DJ Sid Gribetz plays selected recordings produced by Phil Schaap, Sid will be presenting the Benny Carter Verve reissues, Jimmy Rushing, and "Bird at the Roost." 6:00 PM: WKCR DJ Cliff Preiss plays selected recordings produced by Phil Schaap, Cliff will be playing the reissues of Flip Phillips and Machito and his Orchestra, Miles Davis, Stan Getz, Lester Young With The Oscar Peterson Trio, Billie Holiday, Duke Ellington & His Orchestra, Johnny Hodges, and Kenny Kersey. 9:00 PM: “Live from The West End” - WKCR DJ Josh Kazali plays selected recordings produced by Phil Schaap including Benny Waters, Earle Warren and the Count’s Men, plus Phil produced “Jazz Session 45s” SATURDAY 2/5 12:00 AM: WKCR Alumnus and guest DJ Louise Dubin shares stories about Phil Schaap and plays four Charlie Parker tracks produced by Phil. 12:25 AM: TBA 1:40 AM: WKCR DJ Schuyler Rabbin-Birnbaum plays selected recordings produced by Phil Schaap 5:00 AM: Bird Flight from 7/08/2011, the first of a four part series on the first edition of Charlie Parker with Strings and its influences. 6:10 AM: Bird Flight from 7/15/2011, the second of a four part series on the first edition of Charlie Parker with Strings and its influences. 7:30 AM: Bird Flight from 7/20/2011, the third of a four part series on the first edition of Charlie Parker with Strings and its influences. 8:50 AM: Bird Flight from 7/21/2011, the last of a four part series on the first edition of Charlie Parker with Strings and its influences. 10:10 AM: Selected listener and alumni tributes to Phil, intermixed with recordings produced by Phil 11:00 AM: Phil Schaap, a retrospective: Part 3. Join WKCR alumni Kevin Costa, Martin Johnson, and Loren Schoenberg for a conversation reflecting on the life and work of Phil Schaap. 12:00 PM: Out to Lunch from 1/2/2017, for the first Out To Lunch of 2017, Phil celebrates the music of pianist and composer Herbie Nichols on the day before his 98th birthday. 3:15 PM: Festival Archival from 3/9/2019, on this edition of the Birthday Broadcast, Phil presents the earliest live and studio recordings of Ornette Coleman. 6:45 PM: Traditions in Swing 6/30/2018, Phil explores the innovative and great early arrangements for the saxophone section by Benny Carter on record. 10:00 PM: Traditions in Swing from 11/3/2018, Phil pays tribute to the pioneering bassist Jimmie Blanton on the 79th anniversary of his joining Duke Ellington's orchestra and a few weeks after his centennial. SUNDAY 2/6 1:15 AM: WKCR DJ Amiri Tulloch plays selected recordings produced by Phil Schaap 4:00 AM: Bird Flight from 1/4/2016, the first of a six part series on the famed concert at Massey Hall given May 15, 1953. This show provides an overview of the concert. 5:10 AM: Bird Flight from 1/8/2016, the second of a six part series on the famed concert at Massey Hall given May 15, 1953. This show provides an overview of the concert. 6:10 AM: Bird Flight from 1/13/2016, the third of a six part series on the famed concert at Massey Hall given May 15, 1953. This show provides an overview of the concert. 7:30 AM: Bird Flight from 1/15/2016, the fourth of a six part series on the famed concert at Massey Hall given May 15, 1953. This show provides an overview of the concert. 8:50 AM: Bird Flight from 1/19/2016, the fifth of a six part series on the famed concert at Massey Hall given May 15, 1953. This show provides an overview of the concert. 10:05 AM: Bird Flight from 1/22/2016, the last of a six part series on the famed concert at Massey Hall given May 15, 1953. This show provides an overview of the concert. 11:25 AM: Eddie Karp interviews Jim Eigo 12:00 PM: Out to Lunch from 6/20/2011, Phil on Bill Challis 2:40 PM: Out to Lunch from 2/15/2016, in an annual tradition, Phil plays the music of The President on President's Day, this time presenting the evolution of Lester Young's style over his recorded career. 5:50 PM: Traditions in Swing from 9/6/2017, in the first in a series of shows focusing on the early dawn of recorded Jazz, Phil features the music of the King Oliver Creole Jazz Band. 9:05 PM: To close out the Phil Schaap Tribute Broadcast, listen to tracks selected by our alumni which celebrate the life of Phil Schaap.

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