Dan Gould

As I said previously, a gift from the owners to lock out when they did. However, sans lock out, you telling me players wouldn't be out on strike right now, with that strike having started right before mandatory Spring Training report date? Then your pro-union mind is completely delusional. I wish MLB had put out a statement that they are opening Spring Training camps and proceeding in anticipation of striking a deal before March 31 - then the players would have shown their true colors. And you wouldn't put out self-righteous idiocy like "remember this is a lockout not a strike."

Yeah, I feel like I need the band teacher in Whiplash to demonstrate for me, like he did in the early dragging/rushing scene.

My father was a space-age bachelor, and had a pad to live in. He was only married four or five years before your arbitrary cut off of 1964. Yet I don't think that his 50s Sinatra LPs, and a few other jazz recordings (he had a copy of a Playboy compilation, maybe two) are the same as your "space age bachelor pad" music. You really have to be a lot more specific about what you are trying to get at.

Definitely a fan here. One of the things Phil Schaap mentioned had me salivating: Art brought back the wailers as an organ group, with Percy France in the front line. He said the group didn't last long but the shows were corkers.

https://www.discogs.com/release/9237961-Sammy-Price-His-Bluesicians-Featuring-Doc-Horse-The-Blues-Aint-Nothing-But-A-Good-Man-Feelin-Bad

https://www.discogs.com/release/10090110-Joe-Williams-Havin-A-Good-Time There's a full length LP of this, I do believe, but can't find: https://www.discogs.com/release/2226114-Count-Basie-Joe-Williams-Just-The-Blues

The payroll tax is about insisting on a floor no one is near, to eviscerate what once served as something of a break on runaway salaries. Which by the way, have you looked at some of the huge contracts signed in the past few years and in the cut-short off season this year? Owners have been opening the wallets anyway. Same way with "no revenue sharing"? I am not even clear why the players should have any space in negotiating how teams share revenue. But no revenue sharing keeps the rich richer and presumably spending more. So all of the things that avoided labor strife for a couple of decades almost, to be eliminated. Remember what Bill Veeck said about "the high cost of mediocrity". We're inevitably going to see mediocre players out of baseball sooner, surely by the time they hit 32 or so, because why pay when a first or second year player gives the same production?

I think its kind of silly to think of these categories when discogs is rife with sellers putting any album with "blues" in the title under "blues". Having said that there are other Witherspoon releases that fit: https://www.discogs.com/master/659091-Jimmy-Witherspoon-With-Jay-McShann-And-His-Band-Goin-To-Kansas-City-Blues https://www.discogs.com/master/633115-Jimmy-Witherspoon-Singin-The-Blues Cleanhead: https://www.discogs.com/master/338062-Eddie-Cleanhead-Vinson-Cleanheads-Back-In-Town Maybe these really don't fit because they probably go under blues? Edit to add: But these all have what I think of as jazz accompaniment.

It's not serious negotiating. Call it what you want but its not serious. Serious is compromising somewhere. They haven't done a damn bit of it. Look I get it they think now they've been screwed over the last few negotiations. Don't care. Upending the entire system (NO revenue sharing at all? A payroll tax no one will ever pay?) is not negotiating either. Do you honestly expect the owners to roll over?

So the answer is no spirit of compromise whatsoever? Nobody is saying take what is given, but if you want an agreement, negotiate. There is no negotiation going on by the player's, Not a serious one. And as others have pointed out, people will find other ways to spend their disposable income. Hurting the industry by forcing the cancellation of any portion of the season is not helpful in any way. Or have they lost sight of what happened with the last work stoppage?

This. But some dicks are worse than others - and I see that yesterday after PA increased demand on minimum salary, owners increased their offer. Who is making an effort here? I continue to stand by my prior assertions.

How about any concessions at all? If you look at the proposals as described, the owners have moved far more off of their initial offers than the PA. And when the PA does move, what they give with one hand they take with the other, by making some small movement toward owner's number but then making larger ask than before on something else. No seriousness, no urgency, nothing. They are counting their lucky stars that the owners locked them out because otherwise there is no question they would be on strike right now. So public opinion may be with the players (now) but we'll see how that shakes out.

I am not as old as you and whatever themes those cats wrote I don't remotely know them or have interest in hearing them. I'm talking about the tv themes of my youth, same as GoM is. It's not really subject to debate, its nostalgia pure and simple.

I am not even sure what all Mike Post wrote but for my money, the GOAT.

I agree but these aren't piecemeal, as I think of it, in the sense that both sides come back with whatever changes they will now offer. Many of them there is no movement on at all by the PA (and some MLB calls non-starters) and others, the players move further away instead of any movement toward a compromise. Seems that daily meetings this week have nothing to do with serious negotiations and is just for show.

More unseriousness from the PA: New proposal, big increase from previous ask on minimum salary. Fuck 'em.

Small enough for four drink glasses not plates. I kinda thought Slugs didn't have a kitchen ... ?

John, do you listen much at all to Morgan's 50s work? Just curious. As for the photo, this is like, the best photo, non Francis Wolff Division, of Hank.

Agreed. (My guess is that it's Chuck being in the sweet spot for owning such things?)

Stumbled across this, always enjoy Curtis Peagler in a small group, any one help me out? https://www.discogs.com/release/13653454-Harry-Edison-Six-How-Long-How-Long-Blues As always, thanks in advance!

And considering how many recordings he made and having glimpsed a photo of your music room, that is no small accomplishment!

I sometimes wonder to myself if something happened, would I go to the expense of reassembling every Horace Silver or Mobley or Morgan CD I've collected? Somehow I think I wouldn't but hopefully wouldn't get to that point. Fortunately I do not worry about space because of the decision to switch over to binders many years ago when I also sold an enormous amount of CDs. Most of the binders are CDRs though some are commercial discs, and I bundled up the inserts in alphabetical order when they went into the sleeves. I was disappointed to discover recently that those old rubber bands have snapped in most cases, and also dried out and left residue on the front and back inserts of each bundle. But then I remember that used CDs have almost no value anymore, so who cares? Seriously, though I haven't seen your house, but a switch to binders would end your space concerns in all likelihood.

Definitely sad to hear, a fine businessman and gentleman in all senses of the word. I hope his survivors know how many people appreciated him.

I will re-assert that the player's aren't negotiating in good faith or with any serious desire for an agreement. That fund that they moved a measly $5 million closer to the owner's proposal before (my gross number was wrong, they wanted $110 and went to $105 on prior counter-proposal)? That was the proposed fund for pre-arb players to get a bonus. And now their newest proposal isn't $100 mill or even still $105. Not even back to $110, but new ask is $115. In addition, as MLB.com is reporting: Prior to Thursday, the MLBPA had not moved from its November proposal on any of the core issues including minimum salaries, Super 2 eligibility, the competitive balance tax threshold, and the size of both a Draft lottery and an expanded postseason. Thursday marked a slight move in Super 2 eligibility, though one unlikely to move the sides toward a new agreement. ****************** Seriously: FUCK the PA when they've gone this late and don't want to negotiate seriously and won't consider Federal arbitration.