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I quite like the Richard Davis LPs on Muse, even As One (with Jill McManus, whose Symbols of Hopi album is also excellent).

$30 is the average price, or close to it, for new records today. It is definitely not great when you consider most people's salaries haven't been adjusted similarly... Sadly, CD reissues just aren't selling like they used to. I still enjoy them (and sometimes buy them in protest when I don't want to mess with a potentially undercooked and overpriced new LP), but the writing seems like it's very nearly on the wall.

Ah, that's too bad. I had read that she was in hospice care. Was glad to see her at the show Cliff Peterson mentioned. A true original!

Yeah, I think people are getting hung up on perceived similarities between "used goods" and the secondary art market, in which the object such as a painting is unique. Used goods can be rare or valuable for a variety of reasons but are not the same as, say, a Frank Stella work for which his estate could/should receive a percentage on an auction sale.

This is an older article but serves as a good primer: https://hyperallergic.com/153681/an-illustrated-guide-to-artist-resale-royalties-aka-droit-de-suite/ and more here: https://www.copyrightlaws.com/droit-de-suite/ I can't imagine the US in its current state of affairs adopting the concept nationally but it's promising that it is applied in the EU on some level, as well as in California (though I'm not sure if the CA law is still in effect).

yeah, they did have one on the books.

not a specific lawsuit, but adoption of it in the US is constantly being argued between artists, galleries, and auction houses. It has gained some ground overseas.

Yes, royalties, thought that was clear from context.

Avantis -- 4 eller 5 Avantis -- (Sweet Dragon)

yes, it's called "droit de suite," usually when sales are above previous market value. we're also talking about, say, a modern artwork selling for millions of dollars, not an LP.

yeah, it's not like artworks in which -- and this is a fairly recent development -- estates or artists can make claims on a percentage of sales via auction houses. Doubt Blue Note recouped costs on a poorly selling album like True Blue in the first place. It's staggering to think of paying $7500 for an LP (or even $2000. Or even $1000).

granted, copies with obis don't turn up that often, but I never thought of it as a $700 (or more) LP. Cool record, but.......

yes, the Prestige and Takt/Columbia LPs are both excellent. I kinda stop after those early entries.

yes, later pressings have ticked up too. I've never fallen in love with Cool Struttin', as much as I love Sonny Clark, and I can't fathom why. The trusty stereo 70s pressing serves me just fine in this case.

What's interesting to me is the heavy uptick in prices for later Blue Notes... the 4100 and 4200 series titles have gotten really expensive. Out To Lunch was once a $300 LP (not cheap, but manageable), and now, $2500! Iconic music and cover art, sure, but... yikes.

Major loss. RIP!

According to a number of musician-collaborators, the tubaist Joe Daley died on Sunday at age 75. Glad to have seen him several times over the years… and I’m thankful for his contributions. RIP.

yes, glad it could get one more restaging before Bob and Phil were both still living & creating work. I'd imagine brownie was at some of Bob's performances in Paris in the early 70s.

have the LP, excellent indeed.

Sad to report that theater director and visual artist Robert Wilson passed this morning at 83. His long list of collaborators in the music world includes Philip Glass, Laurie Anderson, Don Cherry, Tom Waits, David Byrne, Lou Reed, Dickie Landry, Hal Willner, Helmut Lachenmann, Arvo Pärt, Michael Galasso, and so many others. NYT obit here: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/31/theater/robert-wilson-dead.html I was his archivist for about 11 years, and got to know him & his work quite well. He was something else! Surely some of our board members have seen his plays/operas in person.

Never had that album either. Was wracking my brain -- so familiar, but couldn't place it. Thanks!

Uuskyla is great!

Vernel Fournier (1928-2000)

She was something else. RIP.

Yep! That’s the ticket.