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I listened to him just the other day. The Strata-East hasn't been pulled out in a while, though. Nice date.

Ware has done some really enjoyable, excellent stuff and some really annoying, boring stuff. The quartet got really tiring toward the end of its life, with some corny and almost "poppy" approach to rhythm, I thought, but the new solo disc is awesome. His playing with Cyrille, Hooker, and Beaver Harris is/was fantastic, though I saw him in a duo with Rashied Ali that made me really depressed for the state of the music (ca. 2000/2001). Wasn't even listening in the slightest to what Ali was doing.

So chewy, what do you think of it?

Yeesh.

I think you're reading too much into some of the comments in this thread. If you're feeling guilt, then you've got other issues to deal with. Thanks for clearing that up.

Jeez, it's funny - I like some of Murray's work and all of a sudden I'm an apologist for his entire body of recordings / persona.

Olu's kid is a rapper, and Dennis' kids are punk/metal musicians (as well as improvisers). In my book that also makes Dara and Gonzalez wonderful.

Dang, very sorry to hear this news. RIP.

Indeed.

The closest thing that I can think of is they each appear (on separate tracks) of William Hooker's Is Eternal Life LP. They are both excellent on it, and are both hit-or-miss throughout their 30+ year career. Whatever.

I think you are missing the point.

Obnoxious price for a 70s pressing of this Thad Jones BN.

The Low Class Conspiracy isn't great but some of it gets the job done; I like the Circle LPs just fine. Also, it's a great name for a band, even today.

I like chewy's variant just fine, haha.

Yeah, nice rendition of David Baker's "Le-Roi" on that one.

Right. Also, be careful to take hook, line, and sinker what other musicians think. Competition for bread crumbs is pretty massive in this music.

Strong record and Mobley sounds good. I don't have And Then Again, however - curious about that one.

Not to my knowledge. That's too bad, because it's easily the best of his '60s recordings. The Free Form Improvisation Ensemble CD on Cadence is also worth picking up - very interesting stuff.

Shit. RIP - certainly a full life and certainly, of late, not unexpected.

Mosaic operates in a way that doesn't expect every boxed-set buyer to love everything they put out, though they do hope that jazz buyers trust them and I'm willing to bet that because of Mosaic, hardcore jazz buyers are much more varied in their tastes than they might be if the company did not exist. I'm willing to take a chance and trust that something will be good/interesting if Mosaic put it out, even if I'm unfamiliar with the music/artist that's contained in a given set. Sam Rivers is a good bet, as are Threadgill and Braxton. Now, if it were the Complete Fawe Street recordings of A.R. Penck, I'd probably be telling most of y'all to pass...

Guess I'm not part of that "cognoscenti" either. I think he's good. Not everything he does is good, but there is no way I'd count him out.

Looks good - Tanaka is a fine drummer and Ino is a monster bassist. Thanks.

Sam Rivers may play some music that stretches the boundaries of tonality and group interplay, but keep in mind that he's also someone who knows the tradition quite well and is of basically the same generation as Ornette, Coltrane, and Cecil. He's one of the greatest improvisers on the planet. Mosaic has also done a Sam Rivers Blue Note box - very inside-outside stuff - which should be considered in the context of this set as well. Again, Rivers has a lot more going on than just free blowing.

I'm sure a more sympathetic rhythm section could have been used - Cyrille and Sirone would have been excellent for both.