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Shit, I forgot all about that. Good luck finding it; remember seeing it a few years ago and then let it slip away. I'll bet it's a good album, though! I accidentally started a rumor once that there was a Dieter Scherf-Paul Lovens duo on LST (in addition to the trio), but apparently that doesn't exist. Too bad; would've been cool...

Recordings on the BYG label were never mixed very well. Hence, the "Bass? You Goofed!" comment. You're lucky to get much of either bass or piano on half the BYG catalog.

I prefer Calo Scott, but Carter isn't bad. Definitely better form on The Quest.

Yes, let's all hope that Rusch doesn't record that band. Spirit Room? Spirit away any attempt at good audio... As for sound on Eremite, some are better than others, but I haven't really had much to complain about on the recent ones other than musical quality of Parker and Drake, but that's for another thread.

Hopefully by some kismet he reads it, too! Thanks for the input!

I too recommend the autobiography, Stopping Time. It's not the most challenging read ever, and you can probably go through most of it in a bathroom sitting, but the stories are priceless.

Funny, those are the same two I was thinking of!

Now why THAT didn't make the back cover of an Actuel we'll never know...

Yeah, well, you missed out - it was really, really good. I too hope that some amalgam of this group gets the Eremite treatment. Fielder is a motherfucker. Look out for an AAJ interview in the near future.

Your latter point was all I could remember about the record. Oh well.

Yours is just a little more "swinging" than the original euphemism.

So would this then be a good place to start with Moran? I've been curious but afraid of being underwhelmed also. Nasheet is a great drummer, at least with Peter Brotzmann, where I've seen him several times, and with Andrew Hill, where I saw him once several years ago.

I agree on _most_ of the El Saturn stuff that I've heard, especially of the '70s and '80s. Granted, with Ra I tend to do better with a smaller group and a bop-schooled drummer, which is what I like about the earlier sides (even the ESPs are 'rooted' IMO). Never got into the Philly Jazz; I think I traded mine.

Why do two separate posts, one after the other, have to be combined when they are authored by the same person? I'd rather have that feature done away with - is there an option for turning this off?

I have a lot of respect for what Sunny and the boys were up to - and still are - but my interest in listening to it stems from a few recordings. The early sides on Transition/Delmark and Saturn, the ESPs and any of the '64-'67 Saturns are pretty much where I stand with it. "Strange Strings" is especially nice, though it doesn't exactly sound like the usual Ra fare... And I say: Damn, Allan.

Yeah, that is a hell of a record - a nice complement to "Turning Point" on IAI, with Gilmore, Swallow and Motian. Supposedly some rehearsals with Giuseppi Logan in place of Marshall were taped, though I'm willing to bet that the apartment fire of the 1970s relegated those to being lost. I like "Blood," on International Polydor, a lot, though Chadbourne would disagree. There's also another "Blood" on Fontana, which is pretty great as well. Fuck it, I like pretty much every Bley I've heard, with only a scant few exceptions... and taken in context, even the electronic affairs are kinda neat.

Those "brittle" trumpeters - Bill Dixon, Alan Shorter, Jacques Coursil - always seem to bleed "sunny, cold winter's day" for me. Unfortunately, now that I have relocated to Texas for the next two or so years, it seems unlikely that I'll be pulling those records out nearly as often as I did in Minneapolis.

For too long I have passed up the Beehive discography, though that Reece has always piqued my curiosity. How's the Nistico?

You have the original Transition LP?!?

Norman Howard Article Here is something I recently wrote on Norman Howard and the Cleveland scene for this month's Paris Transatlantic. Probably wouldn't have happened without this thread!

Silly, Isla Eckinger is just another spelling of "Aidelhard Roidinger."

That's Kent Carter's favorite John Stevens record, too... I still want to hear Watts-Tippett-Carter-Stevens doing music from The Connection. They did it, and apparently it was taped!

Well, that's Ornette's fault, not Atlantic's!

They were producing LP variants of titles up until at least 1990, and many of them you can still get 'new.'

Good deal!