sidewinder Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, mjazzg said: I might just go in and see if I can hold it 😃 Do they take donations of spare kidneys? Quote
mjazzg Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 28 minutes ago, sidewinder said: Do they take donations of spare kidneys? Or two... 34 minutes ago, sidewinder said: It was always scarce -probably just the one pressing of a thousand or two for ‘True Blue’. It is one of the rarest and most sought after in the 4000 series. I actually came quite close to getting an original for not that much money. Alas, it didn’t come to pass. £3000 for that original at Honest Jon’s is actually not too bad a price, according to discogs. 🤔 Yes, HJ don't tend to overinflate Quote
sidewinder Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, mjazzg said: Yes, HJ don't tend to overinflate They were asking pretty silly money for those UA and ‘Jazz File’ pressings though. Quote
jazzcorner Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 😁 On 7/31/2023 at 4:38 PM, Pim said: 😁👍 Excellent Bought recently this CD version at a very moderate price Edited August 1, 2023 by jazzcorner Quote
clifford_thornton Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, mjazzg said: I think 'True Blue' is one of the higher priced, fewer sold originally I think I might just go in and see if I can hold it 😃 I held two original copies of True Blue at Academy Records on E. 12th St in NYC within the last three years. It was cool to do. Quote
mjazzg Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 41 minutes ago, sidewinder said: They were asking pretty silly money for those UA and ‘Jazz File’ pressings though. Not so compared to current Discogs listings I didn't think but maybe I didn't check closely enough. I bought a couple of those one-offs and they at least compared ok 27 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said: I held two original copies of True Blue at Academy Records on E. 12th St in NYC within the last three years. It was cool to do. Ha! That makes me even more inclined to do the same 20 hours ago, sidewinder said: NY USA stereo All this chat about this I had to listen to my copy, a Liberty. No sound issues yet Quote
sidewinder Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, mjazzg said: Not so compared to current Discogs listings I didn't think but maybe I didn't check closely enough. I bought a couple of those one-offs and they at least compared ok I think they were asking £60 for ‘The Creeper’, which is pretty ridiculous in my book. ‘Off To The Races’ UA is also £100 ! Quote
mjazzg Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, sidewinder said: I think they were asking £60 for ‘The Creeper’, which is pretty ridiculous in my book. ‘Off To The Races’ UA is also £100 ! I think they're pricing off Discogs, currently £89 - £122, without VAT added. Current highest price sold is £89, median £49. I don't deny it's mad but it's where the market's got to unfortunately. Mind you, it hasn't sold 😁 Is the album any good? Not sure I have heard it. Quote
sidewinder Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 It’s good early Donald Byrd without being outstanding IMO. Incredible the prices some of these UAs are commanding. Totally mad - but somebody must be splurging on them. Only a few years ago the going rate was £20-30. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 I was just chatting with Dmitry about these UA blue & black 'b' reissues' prices on another thread. I just can't believe that they are going for $100+ all over the place. I bought a bunch of these just a few years ago for less than $20 each. I think my days of shopping for BN vinyl are just about over anyway, so no biggie for me. But if I were just getting into this... wow. It'd be painful. Quote
HutchFan Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 Roy Ayers Ubiquity - He's Coming (Polydor, 1972) Elemental 180 gm LP reissue When I first heard the opening cut, "He's a Superstar," I assumed it was drawn from Jesus Christ Superstar, the musical. But no. Ayers co-wrote it with Myrnaleah Williams. In fact, several tracks have funkified gospel themes, including the title cut. It's music that's very much "of its time," but I love it. . . . I imagine that when Nicholas Payton talks about Black American Music (BAM), he's talking about precisely this sort of thing, music that ignores the lines between funk, soul, jazz, gospel, pop. It's all stewed together here. and Willie Humphrey - New Orleans Clarinet (Smoky Mary, 1974) Been enjoying the sounds of NOLA lately. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, bresna said: I was just chatting with Dmitry about these UA blue & black 'b' reissues' prices on another thread. I just can't believe that they are going for $100+ all over the place. I bought a bunch of these just a few years ago for less than $20 each. I think my days of shopping for BN vinyl are just about over anyway, so no biggie for me. But if I were just getting into this... wow. It'd be painful. Yeah, if they have VAN GELDER in the dead wax people will pay through the nose for them. Personally I can't imagine paying more than $20 for any of 'em, but times have certainly changed. When you factor in that even blue/white Liberty pressings of certain titles are going for hundreds of dollars, $100 for a 70s pressing seems downright reasonable. Insanity for sure! Quote
HutchFan Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 More NOLA clarinet: Jimmie Noone, Earl Hines - "At the Apex Club" 1928 (MCA, Jazz Heritage Series Vol. 14) The music on Side A sounds great -- but the cuts on Side B sound even better with the addition of Lawson Buford's tuba (or string bass). Love that bottom end bump! If you'd care to sample, here's Noone's theme song, "Sweet Lorraine": Quote
HutchFan Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 Wrapping up my New Orleans clarinet ramble with Johnny Dodds: Quote
Daniel A Posted August 1, 2023 Report Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, clifford_thornton said: Yeah, if they have VAN GELDER in the dead wax people will pay through the nose for them. Personally I can't imagine paying more than $20 for any of 'em, but times have certainly changed. When you factor in that even blue/white Liberty pressings of certain titles are going for hundreds of dollars, $100 for a 70s pressing seems downright reasonable. Insanity for sure! Not sure why, really, but to me, some of the Blue Note magic is lost just because of those black or white "B" labels. I just prefer to se the rotating blue/white label on the turntable. 🙂 10 hours ago, sidewinder said: Around the turn of the millennium was good, you could still pick up some of these in stores and sites like the late lamented jazzinvinyl.com were going strong with their online sales. My best find in a physical shop was a mono first press ‘Out To Lunch’ in decent condition for....... £10. Incredible find! Not as sought after title maybe, but in 1998 I found a mono copy of Hubbard's 'Blue Spirits' for 9 Euro in a jazz record shop (Birka Jazz, which some might remember from their later web-only incarnation). Quote
Daniel A Posted August 2, 2023 Report Posted August 2, 2023 For some reason, the physical Birka store, while excellent, did not seem to attract enough customers. It sustained only a couple of years. It was situated only a block from the then location of more well-known Andra Jazz. However, Birka were kind of pioneers in going web-only already at the turn of the millennium. Here is a picture from the Birka store: Its owner, Torbjörn Sörhuus, was born in the same year as famed Andra Jazz owner Harald Hult, 1940, and had a similar history of starting out with a used book store, but also working as a journalist. After retiring from Birka Jazz, he wrote a fantastic book, loaded with rare pictures, covering just about all the record stores in Stockholm through the 20th century and up to modern times. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted August 2, 2023 Report Posted August 2, 2023 Birka still has the excellent online database of jazz album covers. I could look at that all day. Quote
jazzcorner Posted August 2, 2023 Report Posted August 2, 2023 28 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: Birka still has the excellent online database of jazz album covers. I could look at that all day. Have saved the link among my favorits which I visit here and the. In addition to that I do collect coverart books ( see also special thread here at Organissimo) and have started a DSM thread at SHF's. Playing now Quote
Pim Posted August 2, 2023 Report Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, clifford_thornton said: Yeah, if they have VAN GELDER in the dead wax people will pay through the nose for them. Personally I can't imagine paying more than $20 for any of 'em, but times have certainly changed. When you factor in that even blue/white Liberty pressings of certain titles are going for hundreds of dollars, $100 for a 70s pressing seems downright reasonable. Insanity for sure! I'm a bit too late in the hole vinyl race. I don't have any original Blue Note record and I am curious to hear one in good condition. I am not in the financial position to pay a thousand euros for a single LP nor am I interested in doing so. The 3000 pounds True Blue copy: that's what I spend on vinyl in 3 years..... The two single LP's I spent most money on were Nathan Davis' Jazz Concert at a Benedictine Monastery and Mal Waldron's Spanish Bitch. I do have some older Blue Note records: a Liberty pressing of Jackie McLean's 'Bout Soul and an early 70's copy of Lee Morgan's last album. I have to say they sound amazing. Also a near mint copy of Lee Morgan's The Gigolo early 70's US press that sounds flawless. I do love the idea that something that old could still sound so beautiful. My oldest LP is a Gerry Mulligan mono pressing from the Netherlands from 1956. I always think: my mom and dad were 5 and 6 years old when this was pressed. And who has owned it since then? But with Blue Note vinyl I mostly own Japanese versions and those pressings sound so incredibly good to me. Especially those King pressings are really up into that Tone Poet league. I bought most of those Japanese pressings for something around 30 euros a piece which is of course more expensive than a cd but I am more a vinyl than a cd guy (though I still own more cd's than lp's). I am also not a pressing fetishist or real audiphile. One pressing is good enough for me (as it sounds good of course). Not interested in buying multiple pressings from the same record as there's so much music yet to explore. One exception are my Blue Note 75th series of which I really dislike the sound. I gladly sold my copies of Bobby Hutcherson's Happenings and Hendersons Mode for Joe for 50 euros combined and be happy to replace them. I only have one of them left: Free for All by Art Blakey which sounds louzy as well. Edited August 2, 2023 by Pim Quote
Pim Posted August 2, 2023 Report Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) This afternoons playlist before going out for a walk with my two boys. This Cookers album is so freakin good. I hate the fact that I had to miss these guys in Rotterdam. They were about to perform there and then there was COVID. I never got the chance to see them @david weissif you ever got the chance please visit us in Holland! Belgium or the western part of German would be fine as well. I’d take a long ride to see you guys perform. Edited August 2, 2023 by Pim Quote
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