WD45 Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 How about the guitar brand Epiphone? Like epiphany or [epi-fone'] ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I've been listening to the WBGO radio special "The House That Trane Built," and there are a couple of pronouncer questions that crop up as a result. Several of the interviewees refer to Bob Thiele as "THEEL," but the narrator says "TEAL." Then there's Ayler--I've always heard it pronounced as "EYE-ler," but a couple of people here say "AY-ler" (which perhaps, on the surface of it, makes more sense). Any definitive answers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 (edited) How about the guitar brand Epiphone? Like epiphany or [epi-fone'] ? I believe it's EP-ih-phone (short e sound in "EP") Edited September 1, 2006 by Jim R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonF Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I was wondering what is the correct pronunciation of Renee Rosnes. I found this on wikipedia: Her first name's pronunciation is a derivative of Irene ("ree-nee"), rather than the common pronunciation of Renee (i.e. not as "re-nay"). It's Ree-nee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Don't know if this was asked/answered before... How 'bout Art Rupe, of Specialty Records? Is it "roop" or "rue-pee?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonF Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 How about the guitar brand Epiphone? Like epiphany or [epi-fone'] ? I believe it's EP-ih-phone (short e sound in "EP") Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonF Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 (edited) I've been listening to the WBGO radio special "The House That Trane Built," and there are a couple of pronouncer questions that crop up as a result. Several of the interviewees refer to Bob Thiele as "THEEL," but the narrator says "TEAL." Then there's Ayler--I've always heard it pronounced as "EYE-ler," but a couple of people here say "AY-ler" (which perhaps, on the surface of it, makes more sense). Any definitive answers? Thielemans, 'Toots' teel-mahnz Thiele, theel The guides I've seen say to pronounce the "TH" with Bob Thiele. But not with Toots. Saw this on a guide at All About Jazz: Albert Eye-ler Edited September 1, 2006 by RonF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Thielemans, 'Toots' teel-mahnz that'd be Teel-uh-mahns, short "ee", short 'mute' "uh" and short "ah" which would make Thiele Teel-uh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I swear I saw something where Donald and Albert gave different pronunciations for Ayler... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonF Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Thielemans, 'Toots' teel-mahnz that'd be Teel-uh-mahns, short "ee", short 'mute' "uh" and short "ah" which would make Thiele Teel-uh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Thielemans, 'Toots' teel-mahnz that'd be Teel-uh-mahns, short "ee", short 'mute' "uh" and short "ah" which would make Thiele Teel-uh eyyyy, Toots is from Flemish Brussels, he speaks Flemish/Dutch, hence his name is pronounced Flemish/Dutch. Having lived in the US for such a long time, he himself has adapted and when talking english calls himself "Teelmahns", if only just because Charlie Parker did... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonF Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 I swear I saw something where Donald and Albert gave different pronunciations for Ayler... From WWUH Jazz Pronunciation Guide: Ayler, Albert eye-ler From New England Jazz Radio Cooperative Pronunciation Guide: Ayler, Albert eye-ler Of course, they could have it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Just double-checking--J.R. Monterose: MON-teh-ros? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Arthur Blythe's last name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Like Danner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 How do you pronouce: (1) Ahmet Ertegun's last name? (2) Joachim Kuhn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 I swear I saw something where Donald and Albert gave different pronunciations for Ayler... From WWUH Jazz Pronunciation Guide: Ayler, Albert eye-ler From New England Jazz Radio Cooperative Pronunciation Guide: Ayler, Albert eye-ler Of course, they could have it wrong. Stuart Broomer (who met the brothers) told me they each had a different preference for the pronunciation of his name. Now, I don't remember which one preferred which...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 (2) Joachim Kuhn? i am not good at explaining... Jo-a-chim the J in Jo is not pronounced like in Joe, may be you do the right thing if you think of "eo" like in Cleopatra (but probably you prononce the o from Cleopatra like the oe in Joe? it's rather a "plain" o as in professional...) the middle "a" is like in "bath" chim: a first approximation is "kim" like in "next of kin" but the "ch" is the same non-english sound as the "j" from spanish baja (iirc)... nobody will be offended if you simply say "Kim" Kuhn (or rather Kühn with two dots on the u) the "h" is not spoken, it simply indicates that the "ü" is long. The ü is the same as the french u, so if you know french and pronounce the imaginary french word "kun" you will probably do the right thing... but again as there is no ü in English, so if you say Kuhn as you would say Steve Kuhn, or like "Cool" with an "n" instead of the "l" that would be fine with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Larsen Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Last week at the VV the house announcer introduced Paul "Motion". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Last week at the VV the house announcer introduced Paul "Motion". on "Sunday at the Village Vanguard" it only says Bill Evans featuring Scott LaFaro iirc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 (2) Joachim Kuhn? attached a German announcement, first of "das Joachim Kühn Trio", then twice just "Joachim Kühn". Note how the stress in Joachim is on the A, so that's yo-Akhim. The announcer actually almost swallows the "yo" part; typically, guys named Joachim are called Achim for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 How do you pronouce: (1) Ahmet Ertegun's last name? it's somewhere on an FZ album I only have on vinyl, but there Ertegun is pronounced starting off like "Earth", but then forms into Eardigin' with stress on the first syllable; almost rhymes with "cardigan". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 How do you pronouce: (1) Ahmet Ertegun's last name? it's somewhere on an FZ album I only have on vinyl, but there Ertegun is pronounced starting off like "Earth", but then forms into Eardigin' with stress on the first syllable; almost rhymes with "cardigan". That's probably the English pronunciation, but how does it sound in Turkish? Ertegun was from Turkey. I wonder if they pronounced the "g" as an "h", as in the Turkish prime minister Erdogan's name, which is pronounced "Erdohan". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ep1str0phy Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 I've always been curious about the pronunciation of 'M's in South African dialects, such as the 'M' in Mbizo (re: Johnny Mbizo Dyani). Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 I swear I saw something where Donald and Albert gave different pronunciations for Ayler... From WWUH Jazz Pronunciation Guide: Ayler, Albert eye-ler From New England Jazz Radio Cooperative Pronunciation Guide: Ayler, Albert eye-ler Of course, they could have it wrong. Stuart Broomer (who met the brothers) told me they each had a different preference for the pronunciation of his name. Now, I don't remember which one preferred which...... Carl Woideck's notes from the book included in the Holy Ghost set (p.191): ...The most unusual answer I got from the Ayler brothers that evening same when I asked them how to pronounce their surname. Don said A-ler (rhyming with "tailor") and Albert said Eye-ler! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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