Ron S Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 The yourmusic.com site seems to be down right now. Apparently, their server's been infected with the copy-protection software/virus on the new Sony discs they added today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 It's back up now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Several new items today: Gerry Mulligan--Jeru Ahmad Jamal--The Legendary Okeh and Epic Recordings Woody Shaw--Stepping Stones: Live At The Village Vanguard Bob Brookmeyer--Bob Brookmeyer & Friends Horace Silver--Silver's Blue Dexter Gordon--Manhattan Symphonie ← This morning's USA Today had a big article on the Sony BMG problem, and said that the Mulligan, Silver and Gordon are copy protected with the spyware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Several new items today: Gerry Mulligan--Jeru Ahmad Jamal--The Legendary Okeh and Epic Recordings Woody Shaw--Stepping Stones: Live At The Village Vanguard Bob Brookmeyer--Bob Brookmeyer & Friends Horace Silver--Silver's Blue Dexter Gordon--Manhattan Symphonie This morning's USA Today had a big article on the Sony BMG problem, and said that the Mulligan, Silver and Gordon are copy protected with the spyware. The Brookmeyer apparently is, also. The Jamal is too full (80 minutes) to be copy-protected, and I don't believe the Shaw is, either. There appears to be a posse of Copy-Protection Avengers dropping one-star ratings and warnings on every copy-protected CD on Amazon, and they've hit the Brookmeyer (and the others), but left the Shaw alone. I wonder if Sony/BMG will let yourmusic sell the CP discs given what's happened, or whether they'll sell new pressings without the CP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 I've read that the Shaw does not have the software as well, due to length. I bet that BMG/yourmusic sells the discs with the software. . . why would they bother to make another edition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 I've read that the Shaw does not have the software as well, due to length. I bet that BMG/yourmusic sells the discs with the software. . . why would they bother to make another edition? Only because of all the controversy and potential legal issues with the software (for some reason the words "class action" come to mind ) and, after all, yourmusic is part of the "family" that brought us this mess. Didn't Sony/BMG announce that they were ceasing production of CP discs? Of course, they could use the BMG-direct sellers as a dumping ground for the CP discs already produced, but from the perspective of bad PR and portential legal liability, they may decide that that would be more trouble than it's worth. Also, Microsoft's recent classification of the Sony CP software as "malicious" might encourage Sony/BMG not to sell the discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 I bet that BMG/yourmusic sells the discs with the software. . . why would they bother to make another edition? ← Since BMG owns half of Sony BMG, I imagine that this copy protection program must have been done with their approval. So presumably if they approved it at the production level, they would approve it for their own retail outlet. Just speculation, of course. I would like to see a law requiring online retailers to prominently post a warning when a CD is copy protected. We shouldn't have to be surprised by Your Music when we receive what we've ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Well, unless they back order these and cancel them, we'll know soon. . . I ordered all but the Silver (have that one already). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 for some reason the words "class action" come to mind I was thinking the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjazz Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 There was an article that said SONY stopped the CP program. Associated Press November 12, 2005 latimes.com : Business E-mail story Print Most E-mailed Small Text SizeSmall Text Size Regular Text SizeRegular Text Size Large Text SizeLarge Text Size Change text size Sony BMG Pulls CD Anti-Piracy Software From Associated Press WASHINGTON — Stung by continuing criticism, Sony BMG Music Entertainment promised Friday to temporarily suspend making music CDs with anti-piracy technology that could leave computers vulnerable to hackers. The world's second-largest music label defended its right to prevent customers from illegally copying music but said it would halt manufacturing CDs with the "XCP" technology as a precautionary measure. "We also intend to reexamine all aspects of our content protection initiative to be sure that it continues to meet our goals of security and ease of consumer use," Sony said in a statement. The anti-piracy technology, which works only on Windows computers, prevents customers from making more than a few copies of the CD and from loading the CD's songs onto Apple Computer Inc.'s iPod portable music players. Some other music players, which recognize Microsoft's proprietary music format, would work. Sony's announcement came one day after security companies disclosed that hackers were distributing malicious programs over the Internet that exploited the anti-piracy technology's ability to avoid detection. Hackers discovered that they could effectively render their programs invisible by using names for computer files similar to the ones cloaked by the Sony technology. A senior official for the Department of Homeland Security cautioned entertainment companies against discouraging piracy in ways that also made computers vulnerable. Stewart Baker, the department's assistant secretary for policy, did not cite Sony by name in his remarks Thursday but described industry efforts to install hidden files on consumers' computers. "It's very important to remember that it's your intellectual property, it's not your computer," Baker said at a trade conference on piracy. "And in the pursuit of protection of intellectual property, it's important not to defeat or undermine the security measures that people need to adopt in these days." Sony's program is included on about 20 music titles, including releases by Van Zant and the Bad Plus. Security researchers have described Sony's technology as "spyware," saying that it is difficult to remove and that it transmits without warning details about what music is playing. They also say Sony's notice to consumers about the technology is inadequate. Sony executives have rejected the description of their technology as spyware. Some leading anti-virus companies updated their protective software this week to detect Sony's anti-piracy program, disable it and prevent it from reinstalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjazz Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Several new items today: Gerry Mulligan--Jeru Ahmad Jamal--The Legendary Okeh and Epic Recordings Woody Shaw--Stepping Stones: Live At The Village Vanguard Bob Brookmeyer--Bob Brookmeyer & Friends Horace Silver--Silver's Blue Dexter Gordon--Manhattan Symphonie ← Art Blakey -- Drum Suite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Several new items today: Gerry Mulligan--Jeru Ahmad Jamal--The Legendary Okeh and Epic Recordings Woody Shaw--Stepping Stones: Live At The Village Vanguard Bob Brookmeyer--Bob Brookmeyer & Friends Horace Silver--Silver's Blue Dexter Gordon--Manhattan Symphonie ← Art Blakey -- Drum Suite Damn! That didn't show up under "New Arrivals"! Thanks! I wonder how many other new ones slip in under the radar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjazz Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 (edited) I saw the Art Blakey new arrival at the BMG site, then checked yourmusic. Edited November 14, 2005 by Tjazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 how's that Mulligan? Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 how's that Mulligan? Anyone? ← Absolutely nothing wrong with it but below midpoint on a Mulligan priority list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 (edited) Before I get Stepping Stones, I want to make sure of one thing: This CD does not have copy protection due to its length, and therefore playing it on my PC and loading it onto my iPod will NOT install a spyware virus, correct? Bertrand. Edited November 15, 2005 by bertrand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Correct. And just to verify, I checked on Amazon, which indicates the presence of copy protection in brackets after the title of each CD that has it. There is no such indication for Stepping Stones (and no one-star ratings/warnings among the reviews). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Christmas Cookin' is on the way!! It's arrival will be the symbolic beginning of the Christmas season for me. Time to break out the Joe Pass - Six String Santa and Merry Ol' Soul and the Organissimo tunes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Skid Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 And just made a panic order of Mother Ship to boot since it told me there will not be any copies available by the time the next queue slot ships. ← My panic order of Mothership finally arrived today. It lingered in "not yet shipped" purgatory for more than a week, and I was beginning to wonder if it was going to be cancelled. Guess I got lucky and got that order in before it disappeared. I really wish they gave us more time to react -- like Mosaic's "running low" and "last chance" categories. Somebody may have already mentioned it in this thread, but if not -- "Monk's Music" is gone, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 All those recent backordered RVGs shipped today. . . except for the McCoy Tyner. Whoo boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 No back orders for the recent Sonys either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 No back orders for the recent Sonys either. Yep, they shipped today, despite Sony's announcing that it's recalling all of the CP discs from retailers, and will have a free trade-in program for any that have already been sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Just got notice that Louis Armstrong's "Satch Plays Fats" is no longer available. I never got a notice that there was low stock, just that it was gone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Just got notice that Louis Armstrong's "Satch Plays Fats" is no longer available. I never got a notice that there was low stock, just that it was gone... ← Weird, they gave me that notice during the summer. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD45 Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 My Blues in Orbit arrived, completely demolished. It was so bad, the post office shrink-wrapped the whole lot to keep the shards of jewel case from going all places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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