clifford_thornton Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 And I just watched Will Penny the other night. I don't know about "RIP," but so long to a complete nutjob who, sometimes, could act. From the BBC... Ben Hur star Charlton Heston dies Heston won an Oscar for his starring role in Ben Hur Charlton Heston, who won a best actor Oscar for his starring role in the epic Ben Hur has died, aged 84, a spokesman for the star's family has said. Heston died on Saturday at his home in Beverly Hills with his wife Lydia, whom he married in 1944, at his side. Heston also portrayed Michelangelo, El Cid and other heroic figures in movie epics of the 1950s and 1960s. He stepped down as president of US gun lobby, the National Rifle Association (NRA), in 2003, citing ill-health. The previous year, he had revealed he had symptoms consistent with Alzheimer's disease. Heston was born John Charles Carter in Evanston, Illinois, on 4 October 1924. He studied acting before serving for three years in the US Air Force. But back in civilian life, Heston went through hard times, while waiting for his first break. In 1952, after working on Broadway, Heston starred as the ringmaster in the movie The Greatest Show on Earth. Four years later, he appeared as Moses in The Ten Commandments, one of the roles which would define his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 I'll mostly remember him for his stint with the NRA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 RIP I guess they can take that gun from him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christiern Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Well, one less vote for the warmongers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 I haven't seen Ben Hur since it was new. I'd like to see it again sometime. I wonder if NetFlix gets on run on an actor's movies when he dies. I bet it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 great actor! who can forget the final scene in planet of the apes!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 RIP I guess they can take that gun from him now. BTW not a bad actor at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Basten II Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Two words Soylent Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 (edited) What? Edited April 7, 2008 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 I can't decide whether to say "Rest In Peace" or "Good Riddance". At least they won't have to pry the gun from his "cold dead hands". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERIGAN Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 (edited) Well, one less vote for the warmongers. Funny, you said kinder things when he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. But I forget, he was such a warmonger.... Edited April 6, 2008 by BERIGAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERIGAN Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 I can't decide whether to say "Rest In Peace" or "Good Riddance". At least they won't have to pry the gun from his "cold dead hands". Oh clearly, good riddance....he supported the 2nd amendment, and was an early supporter of civil rights...clearly a purely evil man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christiern Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Conrad, that photo is obviously a poor Photoshop job. I think anyone with Altzheimers (or any disease, for that matter) is to be wished good health. I lie most of Heston's movies, but I am bothered by anyone's blind support of he NRA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Conrad, that photo is obviously a poor Photoshop job. I think anyone with Altzheimers (or any disease, for that matter) is to be wished good health. I lie most of Heston's movies, but I am bothered by anyone's blind support of he NRA. If you surf around a bit, you can see that the photo is credited Courtesy of National Archives & Records Administration. Here's another taken at the same event: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Ah ... nobody's perfect. I'm sure he was a fine fellow. RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 A fairly stiff actor in my experience who was effective IMO only when he was playing characters whose iconic physical and emotional rigidities matched his own nature (e.g. in "Touch of Evil" and "El Cid"). Comparing him another famous graduate of New Trier High School in Winnetka, Il. (my alma mater, too), I'd say that Rock Hudson was much the superior performer. In fact there may have been a tradition of beefy stiff guys at New Trier; I believe Ralph Bellamy went there. Of course, all that is cancelled out by a one-time New Trier student who I believe eventually moved on to a private school, Bruce Dern. And don't forget Ann-Margret, who I knew a bit back then and interviewed when she and I were both adults, if either of of us could be said to have reached that state. Not sure into which category she falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Conrad, that photo is obviously a poor Photoshop job. I think anyone with Altzheimers (or any disease, for that matter) is to be wished good health. I lie most of Heston's movies, but I am bothered by anyone's blind support of he NRA. If you surf around a bit, you can see that the photo is credited Courtesy of National Archives & Records Administration. Here's another taken at the same event: Yep, all italian newspapers obits remark that Heston supported civil liberties back then and later turned into a strong rep supporter up to NRA presidency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 just saw "Major Dundee" on Friday night... he did some good films, but what do I know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen archer Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 So weird last night without knowing he passed we were at a party and the talk was about The Omega Man. That final scene where he dies with his arms out, christ like in the water fountain. Back in the 70s they used to show that film on channel 38/56 here in Boston a lot, the Saturday afternoon movie. RIP CHUCK ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Yep, all italian newspapers obits remark that Heston supported civil liberties back then and later turned into a strong rep supporter up to NRA presidency. There are those who would make the case that those are not contradictory positions, but are in fact complimentary. I'm not one of them, at least not absolutely, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 In fact there may have been a tradition of beefy stiff guys at New Trier...And don't forget Ann-Margret, who I knew a bit back then and interviewed when she and I were both adults, if either of of us could be said to have reached that state. Not sure into which category she falls. Maybe she was one of the ones who made the beefy guys stiff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 In fact there may have been a tradition of beefy stiff guys at New Trier...And don't forget Ann-Margret, who I knew a bit back then and interviewed when she and I were both adults, if either of of us could be said to have reached that state. Not sure into which category she falls. Maybe she was one of the ones who made the beefy guys stiff... There's an amusing anecdote about that in Dern's recent (and quite entertaining and utterly unfettered autobiography): http://www.amazon.com/Things-Said-Probably...2110&sr=8-1 He and A-M were doing a simulated sex scene in a film, while her husband Roger Smith hovered just out of camera range. Dern, hard-pressed so to speak to know what do, got between the sheets with his undershorts on; A-M was insulted, saying something like "You're just like all those other snotty New Trier boys!" though eventually they worked it out. A-M's family BTW came from the other side of the tracks, while Dern was a scion of wealth and high social standing; his family on his mother's side founded Carson Pirie Scott department store and owned lots of downtown real estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 The Dern/Ann-Margret movie was "Middle Age Crazy" (1980): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081157/ IIRC they play husband and wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Conrad, that photo is obviously a poor Photoshop job. I think anyone with Altzheimers (or any disease, for that matter) is to be wished good health. I lie most of Heston's movies, but I am bothered by anyone's blind support of he NRA. If you surf around a bit, you can see that the photo is credited Courtesy of National Archives & Records Administration. Here's another taken at the same event: Yep, all italian newspapers obits remark that Heston supported civil liberties back then and later turned into a strong rep supporter up to NRA presidency. Not uncommon, actually. A lot of Reagan supporters in the early 1980s were former New Deal Democrats. Frank Sinatra among them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Yep, all italian newspapers obits remark that Heston supported civil liberties back then and later turned into a strong rep supporter up to NRA presidency. There are those who would make the case that those are not contradictory positions, but are in fact complimentary. I'm not one of them, at least not absolutely, but... Yep, they aren't "intrisecally" contradictory positions, thought IMHO NRA has more to deal with an economic lobby rather then civil rights or Constitution, my opinion of course. I haven't got prejudices against Heston, I never knew him personally nor I followed close his extra-movies' life, he wasn't such a great actor, (Jimmy Stewart was, just to name another conservative), just a good actor with a few memorable roles, The Omega Man or Planet of Apes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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