Bad news from Mosaic

[B. Goren.]

Some oop sets can be found on DeepDiscount. Take a look here and check also the next pages.

Edited September 13, 2009 by B. Goren.

[Ron S]

Some oop sets can be found on DeepDiscount. Take a look here and check also the next pages.

I suspect that many of those are actually not in stock--I called about the Richards, and it's not. I'd recommend contacting them regarding stock status before--or even after--placing an order. The good news is that they don't charge your credit card until they ship, if I recall correctly.

[mikelz777]

Some oop sets can be found on DeepDiscount. Take a look here and check also the next pages.

I suspect that many of those are actually not in stock--I called about the Richards, and it's not. I'd recommend contacting them regarding stock status before--or even after--placing an order. The good news is that they don't charge your credit card until they ship, if I recall correctly.

Unfortunately, when you put any of those items in your cart, you'll see the following message:

"This item is temporarily out of stock and will ship to you as soon as product becomes available. We will email you soon with an estimated delivery date. You will not be charged for this item until it is shipped."

I'm guessing that they're never going to become available. They were my first Brookmeyer no-go.

Edited September 13, 2009 by mikelz777

[mikeweil]

There are always bad news on this forum whenever I return from vacation .... ordered the Pearson and Amy sets from Mosaic.

Too bad, I wanted the Brookmeyer, Richards and Slack sets eventually. I have all the Bennie Greens on Japanese LPs, so that's one I can do without, but the others.... I'd kick whoever messed this up in the right spots so it'd really hurt.

Edited September 13, 2009 by mikeweil

[jeffcrom]

The great Atlanta Airlift will be tomorrow. I'll be going to the post office to mail:

Art Pepper Select to Werf

Dexter Gordon Select to djcavanagh

Andrew Hill Select to Guy

as well as Kenton's Back to Balboa (which the same store had) to bebopbob. Sorry I couldn't make someone's day with the PJ Piano Trios - it was still available when I left work that day, so I didn't pick it up.

[Tom 1960]

I'd kick whoever messed this up in the right spots so it'd really hurt.

Better get a number!

[mellowT]

The Brookmeyer Select is still available from J&R for $53 plus $3 shipping. Two ebay sellers have it available for $62, twelve bucks more than when I ordered it on Wednesday. I haven't received any confirmation from that transaction, so it's possible I could be left SOL.

[marcoliv]

Dinah Washington set is the single item of this tragedy that affected me.

[Free For All]

The great Atlanta Airlift will be tomorrow. I'll be going to the post office to mail:

Art Pepper Select to Werf

Dexter Gordon Select to djcavanagh

Andrew Hill Select to Guy

as well as Kenton's Back to Balboa (which the same store had) to bebopbob. Sorry I couldn't make someone's day with the PJ Piano Trios - it was still available when I left work that day, so I didn't pick it up.

You are a saint, sir.

[jeffcrom]

You are a saint, sir.

I'll tell my wife you said so. I'm sure that she'll be highly impressed.

[Free For All]

You are a saint, sir.

I'll tell my wife you said so. I'm sure that she'll be highly impressed.

Feel free to use my comment as desired. BTW, I'm looking for the Shorty Rogers Mosaic. I'm just sayin'............

[jeffcrom]

BTW, I'm looking for the Shorty Rogers Mosaic. I'm just sayin'............

Dude, I'm a saint, not a god.

[king ubu]

Seems I indeed managed to snacht up the last copies each of the Dexter Gordon and Johnny Richards Selects from amazon.fr! Both are "en cours d'expedition" now!

No news on the marketplace orders (Pacific Trios and Shank/Cooper, that is), but I'm still hoping for the best...

[gmonahan]

BTW, I'm looking for the Shorty Rogers Mosaic. I'm just sayin'............

Dude, I'm a saint, not a god.

[king ubu]

Oh, and a Basie Roulette Studio set, please!

[Cliff Englewood]

I want that Ellington 30s set!

greg mo

I guess most folks already have the 2008 Euro-Sony Original Masters Ellington 1932-1939? Those are 'gray-market' in the USA for exactly the same copyright/royalty issues as affects 'Andorran' imports or 'Euro-Mosaics', so some may have scruples. If you can find one though they are dirt-cheap and well worth a few $$$ investment as a bulwark against the non-emergence of the proposed Mosaic 10CD epic.

I don't think the Original Masters Ellington 1932-1939 was ever a "grey" market release and it has since gone OOP.

There is a new one avaiable for £179.39 on Amazon.co.uk though.

[tranemonk]

IHMO You ain't missing much... I have this set and was EXTREMELY disappointed with it...

Dinah Washington set is the single item of this tragedy that affected me.

Edited September 14, 2009 by tranemonk

[Cliff Englewood]

I don't want to sound harsh but if Mosaic is experiencing problems, either because of the recent disaster or because of the general shitness of the economy in general, I can't help but feel they brought a little of it on themselves. I know every business needs to grow to suceed but things like Mosaic Contemporary and going back to producing Vinyl didn't seem to me to be great ideas. The Complete Thelonious Monk At The It Club for $100 doesn't really make sense even in the good times. And although Mosaic Singles was a good idea, some of the choices seemed a little strange, did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City? I know they are limited in what the can do with regards to licences and what the majors will let them have but when you're charging top dollar for a single cd surely there must be more inspiried stuff than this? Judging by the majority of the recent big sets they were going for artists with a bit more universal appeal, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Benny Goodman, Oscar Peterson etc rather than or indeed to help pay for the Anthony Braxton type sets.

I do like the big boxes and the Selects, maybe not as much as I used to, and obviously I want to see them continue but maybe they should stick to doing what they do best, ie the big boxes and the Selects?

[David Ayers]

I don't want to sound harsh but if Mosaic is experiencing problems, either because of the recent disaster or because of the general shitness of the economy in general, I can't help but feel they brought a little of it on themselves. I know every business needs to grow to suceed but things like Mosaic Contemporary and going back to producing Vinyl didn't seem to me to be great ideas. The Complete Thelonious Monk At The It Club for $100 doesn't really make sense even in the good times. And although Mosaic Singles was a good idea, some of the choices seemed a little strange, did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City? I know they are limited in what the can do with regards to licences and what the majors will let them have but when you're charging top dollar for a single cd surely there must be more inspiried stuff than this? Judging by the majority of the recent big sets they were going for artists with a bit more universal appeal, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Benny Goodman, Oscar Peterson etc rather than or indeed to help pay for the Anthony Braxton type sets.

I do like the big boxes and the Selects, maybe not as much as I used to, and obviously I want to see them continue but maybe they should stick to doing what they do best, ie the big boxes and the Selects?

That Mosaic Contemporary website is just bizarre.

They'd maybe have done themselves a favor with the Braxton to exclude the Four Orchestras thing and sell it as a snappier, easier-to-shift 6 CD set. I agree about the big-name big boxes, though not about Selects which I can't quite be bothered with. The big boxes suffer a little in some cases from incompleteness, which annoys collectors, and in some cases from the terrible booklet texts. But when big-name sets come out they go on everybody's wishlist, and, as you say, unlike George Wein, that is a huge plus.

[Cliff Englewood]

I don't want to sound harsh but if Mosaic is experiencing problems, either because of the recent disaster or because of the general shitness of the economy in general, I can't help but feel they brought a little of it on themselves. I know every business needs to grow to suceed but things like Mosaic Contemporary and going back to producing Vinyl didn't seem to me to be great ideas. The Complete Thelonious Monk At The It Club for $100 doesn't really make sense even in the good times. And although Mosaic Singles was a good idea, some of the choices seemed a little strange, did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City? I know they are limited in what the can do with regards to licences and what the majors will let them have but when you're charging top dollar for a single cd surely there must be more inspiried stuff than this? Judging by the majority of the recent big sets they were going for artists with a bit more universal appeal, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Benny Goodman, Oscar Peterson etc rather than or indeed to help pay for the Anthony Braxton type sets.

I do like the big boxes and the Selects, maybe not as much as I used to, and obviously I want to see them continue but maybe they should stick to doing what they do best, ie the big boxes and the Selects?

That Mosaic Contemporary website is just bizarre.

They'd maybe have done themselves a favor with the Braxton to exclude the Four Orchestras thing and sell it as a snappier, easier-to-shift 6 CD set. I agree about the big-name big boxes, though not about Selects which I can't quite be bothered with. The big boxes suffer a little in some cases from incompleteness, which annoys collectors, and in some cases from the terrible booklet texts. But when big-name sets come out they go on everybody's wishlist, and, as you say, unlike George Wein, that is a huge plus.

Yea, I checked the Mosaic Contemporary website when I was typing my post and it is, as the Trailer Park Boys would no doubt say, fucked in the head!!!. It also looks like they have already bailed on it.

[Free For All]

did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City?

I see your point, but would like to add I've really enjoyed the Jimmy Witherspoon and have listened to it repeatedly.

[jazzbo]

Likewise I enjoy the Wein, I had a sratchy lp version and love that there's a cd. Pee Wee! I can never have enough Russell. I like the 'Spoon as well.

I agree that the vinyl and the Contemporary lines seem risky if not foolish to me. . . but I think they cater to a market that is not well as well represented online as offline, possibly. I wish Mosaic well. It's possible that if they weather the storm they may become a cd outpost in a download world. (?)

Edited September 14, 2009 by jazzbo

[king ubu]

I will get the Wein and Spoon eventually...

Just sent in my order for the Pearson, added the Braxton and the Brothers Single.

I like the Singles a lot.

As for the Contemporary part... no interest in that here, at least mostly, as I did get the Freddie Hubbard which is pretty good!

[king ubu]

Btw, whatever other two sets were still listed as "Last Chance" besides the Pearson are now gone from the site!

[J.A.W.]

Btw, whatever other two sets were still listed as "Last Chance" besides the Pearson are now gone from the site!

One of them was the John Patton Select.