Teasing the Korean Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 How are these, and in the grand scheme of things, how "important" are they? There were two albums, one solo and one group, correct? Are these the last things he ever did? I am not a Monk completist, but I have probably 90% of his commercially released output. Just curious. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 They are very good - for my money easily the best of his later recordings, recorded at Chappels Studio in Central London. There were 3LPs I think - compiled in the Mosaic Black Lion box and also a CD box put out by Black Lion (Alan Bates?). Recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I'll echo what SW says. Recommended! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) I like them a lot. Monk was awake, alert and energetic. And the rhythm section: Al McKibbon and Art Blakey. C'mon! There were 2 LPs, released in very crackly editions in the U.S.: Something In Blue and The Man I Love. The albums mixed solo tracks with trio tracks. Black Lion subsequently released the entire session in 3 CDs, now unfortunately hard to find. I found a thread about this topic on the allaboutjazz forum, oddly enough, started by me: http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/archive/index.php/t-5858.html Edited May 10, 2014 by mjzee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwbol Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 CD-R alert. I ordered the 24bit remasters a while ago through amazon.de. One of the discs was a CD-R. The other two volumes were still shrink-wrapped when I returned all three volumes for a refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Another for the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 CD-R alert. I ordered the 24bit remasters a while ago through amazon.de. One of the discs was a CD-R. The other two volumes were still shrink-wrapped when I returned all three volumes for a refund. as there seems to float different versions of these rereleases, could you describe how the cd(=cd-r) looks like btw which indicators made you detecting the cd-r status ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Monk + Blakey = freaking great music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I'll add to the chorus: some of the very best Monk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 He was in a relaxed mood, technically in good shape, had two great, old buddies from the bop era with him - must have been some of his happiest moments during those years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I have the UK Polydor issues of this material and they sound excellent, no crackle or other issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I had those as well. No problems but I have replaced them with Black Lion cds. Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 In my opinion, they are most definitely worth hearing, and owning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imeanyou Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I'm surprised you have 90 % of Monk's commercially released stuff and have never heard these. For me they are a deal better than his later Colombia efforts. As another poster said, Monk seems energised. Look at the choice of material, he hadn't played Trinkle Tinkle in years and yet he comes back to it with great zest. These were some of the first Monk recordings I got hold of when my Monk obsession started. Sound quality is generally excellent if you get the Black Lion cd's. I spotted a Mosaic box set in Disk Union here not long ago and was tempted. Monk puts a fair amount of stride inflection into these sides and it kind of brings him full circle, back to his Harlem roots plus a lifetime 'being just Monk'. Solid gold in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I'm surprised you have 90 % of Monk's commercially released stuff and have never heard these. F My listening is based on what I encounter. This is where I am today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Monk played very much stride on the solo. The stride version of Trinkle Tinkle is fantastic ! Anyway a hard tune, and then even with stride .... It was recorded during the same time when the Giants of Jazz played in London. I also like very much Monk´s playing with the Giants. The latest Monk I heard was 1975 at the Lincoln Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 This picture is said having been taken during a gig at Ronnie Scott`s in 1970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imeanyou Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I'm surprised you have 90 % of Monk's commercially released stuff and have never heard these. F My listening is based on what I encounter. This is where I am today. Surely you 'encountered' reports of these recordings, they aren't exactly obscure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Monk played very much stride on the solo. The stride version of Trinkle Tinkle is fantastic ! Anyway a hard tune, and then even with stride .... It was recorded during the same time when the Giants of Jazz played in London. I also like very much Monk´s playing with the Giants. The latest Monk I heard was 1975 at the Lincoln Center. I've never owned any of the Black Lion discs, but saw the Giants of Jazz in London. This morning I revisited the show preserved here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUVuX3lLrdg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) as there seems to float different versions of these rereleases, could you describe how the cd(=cd-r) looks like btw which indicators made you detecting the cd-r status ?Happens more and more often, both from labels (sold out CDs, instead of having the entire catalogue OOP they opt for CD-Rs) or from Amazon (I just got one of Nimbus' Benny Carter four disc sets from amazon.de and it was CD-R, although the description says but "Audio CD") ... also bought CD-Rs from small classical labels, in one case they just told me it was a CD when I wrote to them to inquire ... ha! Not sure why folks that depend to at least some part on sales of this want to fool customers ... anyway, this might help some:http://www.discogs.com/help/database/submission-guidelines-release-format#CD_Versus_CDr Edited May 11, 2014 by king ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomatamot Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Not to forget this album recorded live same 1971 Tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) I'm surprised you have 90 % of Monk's commercially released stuff and have never heard these. F My listening is based on what I encounter. This is where I am today. Surely you 'encountered' reports of these recordings, they aren't exactly obscure. I have not, so I though it would be appropriate to inquire about them on a jazz-focused message board of which I am a member. I have a room full of LPs and CDs, and I can't know everything. Thanks for understanding. Edited May 11, 2014 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 If I can buy the Mosaic set for cheap, is this the way to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 That's a big if! I'm sure it's a great set. But the individual cds of the Black Lion and Vogue sessions don't sound bad at all. I've gone that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 That's a big if! I'm sure it's a great set. But the individual cds of the Black Lion and Vogue sessions don't sound bad at all. I've gone that route. Then I'll skip the Mosaic. I don't need yet another copy of that Vogue album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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