romualdo Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just received a batch of the Hat Hut ezz-thetics Revisited CDs (via Tommy's Jazz & Squidco) This live Horace S Quintet (64-66) is absolutely superb (including SQ) from a stellar period in his career. It's basically a compilation of live tracks that Horace released on the Emerald label (one LP & one CD), which was a subsidiary of Silveto. The whole of Emerald CD 1003 (Half Note) is replicated (sans the Alan Grant Intro) & two tracks (of 4) from the Emerald LP 1001 (Cork & Bib) making 80 minutes in toto. For Joe Henderson fans it's a real bonus - standout track imho is The Tokyo Blues (Cork & Bib) running in at 15 minutes. BTW the Emerald CD was rereleased on the 32 Jazz label, titled Re-Entry. Looks like the two Cork & Bib titles are on CD for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 The entire LP from 1964 should have been issued, IMO instead of a reissue of something that came out twice before and 1/2 of the LP. https://www.discogs.com/release/2679867-Horace-Silver-Live-1964 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bresna Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 When did Hat Art/ezz-thetics go full bootleg? This stuff isn't anywhere near PD in Switzerland and there's no mention of "licensed from" on the CD art: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 It seems it started two years or so ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 It started out with some promise-- I did appreciate the Ayler series and the Fontana albums. But now he's just skimming from Blue Note and OJC, I can scarcely imagine anything more redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bresna Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, colinmce said: It started out with some promise-- I did appreciate the Ayler series and the Fontana albums. But now he's just skimming from Blue Note and OJC, I can scarcely imagine anything more redundant. I guess they figure that if it works for Fresh Sound, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 I’m irrationally offended by the orange-cover clearly not-licensed ‘reissues’ specifically of Blue Note studio material — from what I had always presumed was a legit label. ‘Incensed’ is clearly too strong a word, and would just be hyperbolic — but they do kinda piss me off whenever I see them on Dusty Groove website listings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Realizing there is no respect for the artist's estate or legal interests by this company, and remembering that I had once interacted with Greg Silver about another Horace Silver boot, I've dug up that email and sent a new message to Greg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted December 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 11 hours ago, bresna said: When did Hat Art/ezz-thetics go full bootleg? This stuff isn't anywhere near PD in Switzerland and there's no mention of "licensed from" on the CD art: Wow!! I always thought they were legit - have been buying their material (CDs) since the early 90s the bootlegging probably relates to the Revisited series (11xx) - admittedly I have been perplexed by the Blue Note & OJC inclusions https://www.discogs.com/label/171702-REVISITED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 In general I dislike reissues featuring only a part of the original release .... even this is a sort of disrespect .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 For some of these releases SUISA is listed as the "Rights society" on Discogs. I suppose it says so on the actual CDs. If that is true, some mechanical rights seem to be honored at least. To me, this makes it unlikely that these are "true" bootlegs, but what do I know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 The CDs and/or their web site tout improved mastering, with little explanation. Given their prior history, I am willing to be open minded, but this all seems a little sketchy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 Unfair competition in the marketplace for 100% legit operations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) On 12/7/2022 at 7:16 AM, colinmce said: It started out with some promise-- I did appreciate the Ayler series and the Fontana albums. But now he's just skimming from Blue Note and OJC, I can scarcely imagine anything more redundant. 👍 The choice to reissue the classic Miles Davis Prestige titles is not just perplexing, but silly—especially when the Hat back catalog could be mined. That said, the live Ayler reissues were licensed from Desiree Ayler, so the label isn't full bootleg...yet. The latest Paul Bley reissue (Trio Plays Annette Peacock) is of value, though it does appear to be a bootleg. Michael Brändli resuscitated the old Limelight LP ("Mr. Joy"), which sounded absolutely atrocious on vinyl. Now it's quite listenable. Verve was never going to do anything with this obscure record. Still... Edited December 9, 2022 by Late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 The sound quality improvement on Coltrane's Half Note recordings is quite dramatic, so I am a convert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 A huge missed opportunity, for those Half Note recordings, to include the track "Creation," the best solo Coltrane ever recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Late said: A huge missed opportunity, for those Half Note recordings, to include the track "Creation," the best solo Coltrane ever recorded. https://youtu.be/Zrmx0Zjsvgo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Weiss Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/10/2022 at 1:57 PM, Late said: A huge missed opportunity, for those Half Note recordings, to include the track "Creation," the best solo Coltrane ever recorded. That’s my phone’s ringtone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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