Horace Silver In Seattle 1965

[Steve Gray]

 

https://www.bluenote.com/announcing-horace-silver-silver-in-seattle-live-at-the-penthouse/

 

There a track already streaming, sounds good

Edited Tuesday at 06:31 PM by Steve Gray
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[Dan Gould]

Third or fourth or maybe even fifth favorite Silver front line but I am sure I am in on this.

[JSngry]

When will the CD be available for pre-order?

[Kevin Bresnahan]

7 minutes ago, JSngry said:

When will the CD be available for pre-order?

Blue Note doesn't delay the CD. It's also available for pre-order... for $19.98 for a single CD!

In this day and age, putting a $20 price tag on a CD is ridiculous. Next they'll complain that no one is buying CDs anymore.

[Peter Friedman]

It is always a large treat to have more recordings by Horace Silver issued.

[JSngry]

27 minutes ago, Kevin Bresnahan said:

Blue Note doesn't delay the CD. It's also available for pre-order... for $19.98 for a single CD!

In this day and age, putting a $20 price tag on a CD is ridiculous. Next they'll complain that no one is buying CDs anymore.

Yeah, that's just silly.

I am hoping that Amazon will get it for less than that. But right now they're only taking orders for download/streaming.

[felser]

DeepDiscount and ImportCDs will likely be substantially cheaper.

[colinmce]

Wouldn't necessarily count on that. The Joe Henderson CD was similarly overpriced no matter where you looked. Hard not to feel like this is related to them having such success getting people to shell out for the Tone Poet LPs.

[Pim]

I’m not the biggest Silver fan and realize this makes me an exception but the personell and song selections got me interested.

[JSngry]

It should be a nice supplement to the Emerald records.

[felser]

16 hours ago, colinmce said:

Wouldn't necessarily count on that. The Joe Henderson CD was similarly overpriced no matter where you looked. Hard not to feel like this is related to them having such success getting people to shell out for the Tone Poet LPs.

Good point.  Even CDJapan is coming in at $20 for this Silver.

[jazzbo]

Amazon has it up now for 19.98 and as I had Prime it's my best bet--I pre-ordered. 

Edited yesterday at 02:59 PM by jazzbo

[JSngry]

5 hours ago, jazzbo said:

Amazon has it up now for 19.98 and as I had Prime it's my best bet--I pre-ordered. 

You got a link for that, please? All I can get is for mp3 & vinyl...🤔

[Dan Gould]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FM47DZDD/?tag=imwan-20

 

[JSngry]

Thank you! Not sure why nothing took me to that page, just to the Amazon Music page.

[BFrank]

Great front line. Will definitely stream it, and if it's as good as it appears to be will probably by the CD, too.

[Steve Gray]

I have long wondered what is so awful about the 1964 Live At Pep's session that it was rejected.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

3 hours ago, Steve Gray said:

I have long wondered what is so awful about the 1964 Live At Pep's session that it was rejected.

Supposedly Carmell Jones was heckled before (during?) the show and his playing was adversely affected. Michael Cuscuna gave the masters to Horace so there is a chance that they're out there somewhere. If someone knows Horace's son Gregory, maybe he has them... although I did read somewhere that Gregory may have also passed.

[romualdo]

falls between his Half Note concert (same musician lineup) & the first Blue Note Cape Verdean session

The Natives Are Restless Tonight : Carmell Jones (tp) Joe Henderson (ts) Horace Silver (p) Teddy Smith (b) Roger Humphries (d)

Alan Grant radio broadcast "Half-Note", New York, April 16, 1965

	Song for my father	Emerald EMRCD-1003 [CD], 32 Jazz 32005 [CD]
	The natives are restless tonight	-                        -
	Que pasa ?	-                        -

Note:

32 Jazz 32005 [CD] titled "Re-entry". All above titles also on Ram R-81002 [CD], DIW (Jap)DIW-130 [CD], Ezz-thetics (Swi)1137 [CD]. See February 11 & 18, 1966 for more titles from all issues.   The Cape Verdean Blues : The Horace Silver Quintet : Woody Shaw (tp) Joe Henderson (ts) Horace Silver (p) Bob Cranshaw (b) Roger Humphries (d)   Englewood Cliffs, NJ, October 1, 1965 1661 (tk 4) Pretty eyes (*) Blue Note BLP4220, CDP7-84220-2 [CD], 45-1923 1662 (tk 6) The African Queen          -         -                , 45-1924 1663 (tk 16) The Cape Verdean blues (*)          -         -                , 45-1923,     BN-LA402-H2, (E)BNSLP-1, (G)BST84510, Blue Note     CDP7-95590-2 [CD], EMI (Eu)493466-2 [CD],     Blue Note 3-77398-2 [CD] Note: Blue Note (E)BNSLP-1, CDP7-95590-2 [CD] both titled "Blue bossa"; rest of LP/CD by others. (*) These two titles also on Blue Note CDP7-93206-2 [CD], (Eu)7932062 [CD].

[Stefan Wood]

Wow, what a line up!  I will order this as well, probably on vinyl.  Will wait for the initial fervor to die down and then prices will drop.

[Eric]

Wow - the clip sounds great.  I love the cover, may drive me to the LP.  The Penthouse is Seattle seems to be a fairly deep well.

[Mark Stryker]

FWIW, this material is very good, but, honestly, it's nowhere close to the intensity and creativity of the same band captured six months later at  the Half Note, 2/18/66, playing four songs from he Cape Verdean Blues. A tape of this (from an Alan Grant radio broadcast) has circulated for some 40 years, which is how I first heard it. They were issued on an unautyorized CD, Horace Silver Featuring Woody Show -- Live at the Half Note. on the Hi-Hat label, and I think one tune ended up on the Emerald release. I'm glad Blue Note is putting out what they are, but it's a missed opportunity to not have found a way to include the 1966 Half Note broadcast, which has some of the best Woody and Joe that I know.  

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Mark Stryker

[felser]

$17.96 at DeepDiscount, so one of their coupons will bring it down to $15-16.

[Rooster_Ties]

2 hours ago, Mark Stryker said:

FWIW, this material is very good, but, honestly, it's nowhere close to the intensity and creativity of the same band captured six months later at  the Half Note, 2/18/66, playing four songs from the Cape Verdean Blues. A tape of this (from an Alan Grant radio broadcast) has circulated for some 40 years, which is how I first heard it. They were issued on an unauthorized CD, Horace Silver Featuring Woody Show -- Live at the Half Note. on the Hi-Hat label, and I think one tune ended up on the Emerald release. I'm glad Blue Note is putting out what they are, but it's a missed opportunity to not have found a way to include the 1966 Half Note broadcast, which has some of the best Woody and Joe that I know. 

I had The Natives Are Restless on CD about 25 years ago — and I must have been pretty disappointed in it, because I apparently traded it off 10 years later before I moved to DC.

I kinda remember Natives looking INCREDIBLE on paper — but it never really clicking for me (like maybe it frustrated me SO much how it didn’t click for me, that I finally gave up on it). At least that’s my vague memory of it.

You say the entire Feb 18, 1966 Half Note recording is much better?? I may have to investigate.

BTW, I’ve only listened once to this first track from Silver in Seattle — and I have to say I’m a little nonplussed about it.

Seems like a lotta smoke, but maybe not much fire. Joe and Woody are blowing hard, but (maybe?) not really saying much.

 

[Steve Gray]

5 hours ago, Kevin Bresnahan said:

Supposedly Carmell Jones was heckled before (during?) the show and his playing was adversely affected. Michael Cuscuna gave the masters to Horace so there is a chance that they're out there somewhere. If someone knows Horace's son Gregory, maybe he has them... although I did read somewhere that Gregory may have also passed.

Thanks for that. I hadn't heard that explanation before. It's a great shame