Muse Masters - reissue series

HutchFan · 2025-08-13T17:43:06Z

15 minutes ago, felser said:

32Jazz did a Carlos Garnett comp from his five albums, and the runtime was only 40 minutes, 1/3 of which was 'Taurus Woman' 😟

I've not heard that one -- and it sounds like I don't need to!

felser · 2025-08-13T18:34:42Z

48 minutes ago, HutchFan said:

I've not heard that one -- and it sounds like I don't need to!

You don't. Journey To Enligjtenment and Let This Melody Ring On are the two essential albums. Mother of The Future is the key track on Black Love, but Garnett did a far superior version of it on Norman Conmors' Slewfoot album(blasphemous as that sounds).

HutchFan · 2025-08-13T19:46:39Z

55 minutes ago, felser said:

Journey To Enligjtenment and Let This Melody Ring On are the two essential albums.

Interesting. I think I'd rate Black Love as my favorite -- in no small part due to Dee Dee Bridgewater's vocals.

But I dig Journey and Let This Melody too.

street singer · 2025-08-13T22:43:38Z

22 hours ago, Dan Gould said:

Ltd Edition vinyl, I bet $30 is their price point and it would have to be some unknown and impossible to find release that they would ever get anything from me.

And of all the recordings to choose from at the start, its the Roy Brooks again? (Oh but its never been issued in this extra special, massively overpriced vinyl!)

How is $30 massively overpriced for a record? Adjusted for inflation, $30 today is about $6 in 1972 when this album was released. $30 is absolutely reasonable for this level of quality in a modern vinyl pressing. I would actually expect the price point to be closer to $40, which is still not unreasonable.

Edited 4 hours ago by street singer

JSngry · 2025-08-13T23:18:57Z

But in 1972,list price was $3.99-$4.99, and nobody except a sucker or a desperate person paid list.

Holy Ghost · 2025-08-14T00:26:41Z

On 8/12/2025 at 5:20 PM, JSngry said:

Wow. She's pretty!

Dan Gould · 2025-08-14T00:37:18Z

1 hour ago, street singer said:

How is $30 massively overpriced for a record? Adjusted for inflation, $30 today is about $6 in 1972 when this album was released. $30 is absolutely reasonable for this level of quality in a modern vinyl pressing. I would actually expect the price point to be closer to $40, which is still not unreasonable.

Because it serves no purpose whatsoever, "heavy" vinyl, 'remastered from original tapes' with zero improvement over the sound of a CD - which can also store worthy alternate takes and unissued tunes and this vinyl-only series cannot do that.

Sorry if you can't comprehend that not everyone is a committed audiophile desperate to shell out approximately a dollar per minute of recorded sound. The only time I ever did that was $30 for a Japanese RVG Cd of what must have originally been a 10 inch Hank Mobley LP. Nothing on the Muse label is worth a dollar a minute not even for extra heavy vinyl and extra "special" remastering.

Edited 2 hours ago by Dan Gould

Holy Ghost · 2025-08-14T00:37:36Z

12 hours ago, felser said:

And glad you got the Muse issue rather than the hideous 32jazz issue. What were Dorn & Co. thinking?

I would pay for a CD upgrade of this one, my all-time favorite jazz album, especially with the Mosaic box bonus cut:

My current version is on this. I cashed in on my Mosaic box, a decision I have mixed feelings about. There's so much that could be done with the Muse catalog.

Yeah, couldn't believe it, only $8 used, no 32 Jazz reissue.

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CD issued has the original sleeve art you see above, music is terrific, my favorite Shaw, even passes Rosewood by a smidge, which is a fantastic record! Understudy of the 70's, he deserves so much more credit. Fantastic writer and musician!

Not a Muse, but we are talking about Woody Shaw, this has to be mentioned

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clifford_thornton · 2025-08-14T00:47:32Z

$30 is the average price, or close to it, for new records today. It is definitely not great when you consider most people's salaries haven't been adjusted similarly...

Sadly, CD reissues just aren't selling like they used to. I still enjoy them (and sometimes buy them in protest when I don't want to mess with a potentially undercooked and overpriced new LP), but the writing seems like it's very nearly on the wall.

felser · 2025-08-14T00:50:53Z

23 minutes ago, Holy Ghost said:

Wow. She's pretty!

Mrs. Carlos Santana since 2010.

13 minutes ago, Holy Ghost said:

Not a Muse, but we are talking about Woody Shaw, this has to be mentioned

That album caused a big stir when it got released, including two grammy nominations. Columbia, having one of their pro-jazz moments, was all in on publicizing it, but it was worthy.