Ike Quebec 45 Sessions Being Reissued - Vinyl & CD

[Dan Gould]

 

https://store.bluenote.com/products/ike-quebec-the-complete-45-sessions-blue-note-tone-poet-series?variant=44466687082687

 

Color me surprised ... already issued by Mosaic, is the market that big for the LP treatment?  

I do love Ike but can't say I pull this out very often - the short playing times and not really the greatest organ behind him.  I don't see this being a big seller but what do I know.

Edited yesterday at 02:25 PM by Dan Gould

[HutchFan]

Since I don't have the Mosaic (or the 2005 BN release), I might be in on the game for the 2-CD set.

 

Edited yesterday at 03:52 PM by HutchFan

[Kevin Bresnahan]

I've been waiting for this compilation to be released again so that Blue Note could finally rectify the missing last two tracks from these sessions ("Cry Me A River" & "Uptght"), which have only been released on a rare Japanese CD titled, "From Hackensack to Englewood Cliffs". Michael Cuscuna once told me that they missed those two tracks when he did the Mosaic box in 1987 and again when they re-did it for the Connoisseur 2CD release in 2005 but that he would try to get them out in the future. Looks like they missed them again.


To be honest, I think the 2005 2-CD Connoisseur set was supposed to have these two tracks but someone screwed up during the mastering process and no one pulled that master.

[felser]

If this CD set does not include the two missing tracks, I'm good with just keeping the 2005 2-CD set, which otherwise IMO is a perfect reissue.

[T.D.]

Pass, regardless of the 2 missing tracks. I have the Conn twofer and also rarely play it...lots of Ike recordings I go to far more often.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

3 hours ago, felser said:

If this CD set does not include the two missing tracks, I'm good with just keeping the 2005 2-CD set, which otherwise IMO is a perfect reissue.

The new reissue is the same as the double CD. Just a different cover.

The track order is the same for disc 1, shuffled a bit for disc 2:

CD1
1. A Light Reprieve
2. Buzzard Lope
3. Blue Monday
4. Zonky
5. Later For The Rock
6. Sweet And Lovely
7. Dear John
8. Blue Friday
9. Everything Happens To Me [Short Version]
10. Mardi Gras
11. What A Difference A Day Makes
12. For All We Know
13. Ill Wind

CD2
1. If I Could Be With You (One Hour Tonight)
2. I've Got The World On A String
3. Me 'N Mabe
4. Everything Happens To Me [Long Version]
5. How Long Has This Been Going On
6. With A Song In My Heart
7. Imagination
8. What Is There To Say?
9. There Is No Greater Love
10. All Of Me
11. Intermezzo
12. But Not For Me
13. All The Way

[Dan Gould]

Has it ever been discussed or confirmed the proper pronunciation of Quebec?

(Spoiler: there's a recording of Percy France saying his name so I do have good authority as to proper pronunciation.)

[JSngry]

The only correctly reissue this materials is on actual 45s.

[Dub Modal]

55 minutes ago, Dan Gould said:

Has it ever been discussed or confirmed the proper pronunciation of Quebec?

(Spoiler: there's a recording of Percy France saying his name so I do have good authority as to proper pronunciation.)

I've always used the hard K instead of the 'kw' sound but how did Percy say it?

[Holy Ghost]

10 hours ago, felser said:

If this CD set does not include the two missing tracks, I'm good with just keeping the 2005 2-CD set, which otherwise IMO is a perfect reissue.

Yep. 

[JSngry]

They'll include those two extra cuts when you buy the jukeboxes they're selling .

[Chuck Nessa]

Check THIS.

FWIW, I have the 2 missing tunes on a cdr of Quebec "out takes".

[Big Beat Steve]

So it really is so that they now omitted those 2 missing tracks for the THIRD time? Beats me why ... All on the premise that these 2 tracks were not released originally on 45s so "for authenticity sake" there is no need to include them now because they strictly speaking were not part of his 45 discography? Regardless of what collectors might be craving for? Do they really need to ride the "upgrade to new format" or "milk new buyer segments" train THAT blatantly? 

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Michael Cuscuna & I talked about these two tracks before the 2-CD set came out. He said that they weren't in the Mosaic box due to an oversight on his part. He believed that they should have been included. When the second release came out without them, I got the feeling that someone goofed when they pulled the master tapes for Ron McMaster and simply duplicated the songs on the Mosaic but Michael never flat-out said that. He never named names when there was a mistake like this, unless it was his fault.

The thing about these two tracks was that while they made were for a 45 rpm release, they were cut the first day in RVG's new recording studio and not with any other tunes. That sort of "orphaned" them from the rest of the 45 rpm sessions.

[Big Beat Steve]

Yes, from all I've read before I realize it's like you said. But for a CONSCIENTIOUSLY programmed re-reissue that's no reason not to include them this time around IMHO. After all, as you confirm they WERE intended for marketing as 45s. 
Or was it a matter of playing time? (Which I somehow find hard to believe if there had been a will - considering that the set has 3 LPs). 

[Dan Gould]

15 hours ago, Dub Modal said:

I've always used the hard K instead of the 'kw' sound but how did Percy say it?

In an interview with Art Taylor, Percy describes "Ike QWEE-bek" as a "real buddy of mine".

It never occurred to me that proper pronunciation might be a long "e" but that's how Percy said his name.

[Guy Berger]

I love the 2 CD set.  On many days I like it better than Quebec’s LPs.

[Big Beat Steve]

37 minutes ago, Dan Gould said:

In an interview with Art Taylor, Percy describes "Ike QWEE-bek" as a "real buddy of mine".

It never occurred to me that proper pronunciation might be a long "e" but that's how Percy said his name.

So how do the Canadians pronounce the city of "Quebec"?
From what I remember from those I've encountered around here or heard on Canadian Army radio (when there still was such a thing here) it is more like "kwe-BEK" or "ke-BEK" but rarely "QWEE-bek" or "KEE-bek". I.e pronounced with the stress on the end (as with the habitants referred to as the "ke-BEKKERS"). But as you indicate, it apparently is different with his name. 

[bertrand]

Is it too late to tell Blue Note?

[dougcrates]

49 minutes ago, Big Beat Steve said:

So how do the Canadians pronounce the city of "Quebec"?
From what I remember from those I've encountered around here or heard on Canadian Army radio (when there still was such a thing here) it is more like "kwe-BEK" or "ke-BEK" but rarely "QWEE-bek" or "KEE-bek". I.e pronounced with the stress on the end (as with the habitants referred to as the "ke-BEKKERS"). But as you indicate, it apparently is different with his name. 

There are a lot of regional pronunciations in Canada and I've heard both "kwe-BEK" and "ke-BEK" but never "QWEE-bek" or "KEE-bek"

[JSngry]

You can get those two cuts by buying the Blue Note Ike Quebec Jukebox, which has all the contents on replica OG 45s.

[T.D.]

1 hour ago, bertrand said:

Is it too late to tell Blue Note?

🤣

[Kevin Bresnahan]

1 hour ago, bertrand said:

Is it too late to tell Blue Note?

I've sent an e-mail to Joe Harley, who is my only contact there these days. Hopefully he can do something but it's very very unlikely since they are advertising its availability already. I'm sure it's way past the point where they could add these two tracks.

For the past several years, I've tried e-mailing Blue Note's corporate offices many times using Email addresses Michael Cuscuna gave me but no one seems to be reading those E-mails or, if they are, they are simply deleting them... or they have a directive, "If that asshole Bresnahan E-mails, be sure to delete it".  

It really makes me miss when Cuscuna & Tom Evered were running the reissue program. They were extremely accessible and rarely ignored a valid question. Michael also acknowledged his mistakes and almost always fixed them.