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Stanley Turrentine

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Stanley Turrentine is one of my favorites from way back.  In fact, it was hearing that big soulful tenor sound on Pieces on Dreams from the Don't Mess With Mr. T album on quiet storm radio that got me interested in jazz in the first place. 

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I ripped 'Easy walker' to disc this afternoon. It's the first time I've ripped any of Stanley's LPs. One of the things I noticed about it was that McCoy Tyner was the only musician who made the level indicator flash into the red, so I had to start again. (That was during his solo on 'Meat wave'.) But that surprised me, because one thinks of Stanley as a player with a LOT of volume. He evidently has a LOT more control than he's given credit for.

MG

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On 12/19/2015 at 4:35 AM, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

even though Stan's playing is STILL super; he could rise above any kind of shit thrown at him, though one still doesn't want MUCH of that, thanks.

Totally true about ST.

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Anyone who hasn't yet heard the performance of "Time After Time" linked in the fifth post of this thread is hereby urged to hear it immediately, repeatedly and often.

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More of the same, there's never enough, really.

You can do different, but you can't do better.

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Turrentine is one of my all-time favorite players, he was a master.  Thankfully I got a chance to see him at Jazz Alley in Seattle about 6 months before he passed away, I spoke with him briefly after the gig and he also signed a copy of my Comin' Your Way CD.  

One of my favorites:

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Don't forget to buy those Shirley Scott records!

 

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My two favorite Turrentine solos: The blues with Shirley, Earl May, Grassella Oliphant. Keeps burning hotter and hotter, and the rhythm section keeps shifting into higher gears. Goddam!

 

A real tenor player's tune. That SOUND and the phrasing -- the breath, the bite, the vibrato, the caress, the sass, the I'm-in-control-of-every-little-nuance-of-expression-and-nothing-I-play-is-without-total-intent and complete patience -- all mixed with the hippest bebop and the blues. Always the blues. And in the end, everything is about telling the story

 

 

Edited by Mark Stryker

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I was listening to Pieces of Dreams on Fantasy (1974) today.

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Turrentine's a favourite of mine, but the experience of listening to this one really stood out. The setting is so crass and saccharine as to be almost unpleasant, and yet in spite of that it's actually a good record, simply because there's one man with a horn who knows how to turn this stuff into gold. It's all in the way that Turrentine will ride the slick smoothness for just as long as he wants and then suddenly lunge into a honk or a blues lick, just as it gets ethereal. You can follow what he's doing and respond to it at a gut level - but you can never quite predict it.

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I find I spin these two Turrentine albums more than his small group recordings.

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Musical and fun!

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40 minutes ago, Late said:

I find I spin these two Turrentine albums more than his small group recordings.

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Musical and fun!

What are these? They've never crossed my virw. Wikipedia's confusing. Did they rip up an LT series issue and turn it into two records?

Edited by Rabshakeh

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53 minutes ago, Late said:

I find I spin these two Turrentine albums more than his small group recordings.

Musical and fun!

Two of my favourite Turrentines too.

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6 hours ago, Rabshakeh said:

What are these? They've never crossed my virw. Wikipedia's confusing. Did they rip up an LT series issue and turn it into two records?

Sort of, between the two of them they have most of these four related sessions form 1967:

1967

Stanley Turrentine

Donald Byrd, trumpet; Julian Priester, trombone; Jerry Dodgion, alto sax, flute; Stanley Turrentine, tenor sax; Joe Farrell, tenor sax, flute; Pepper Adams, baritone sax, clarinet; Kenny Barron, piano; Bucky Pizzarelli, guitar; Ron Carter, bass; Mickey Roker, drums; Duke Pearson, arranger.

Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, February 17, 1967

1839 tk.4 She's A Carioca Blue Note BN-LA394-H2, 0946 3 85193 2 4, (J) TOCJ-50277
1840 tk.9 Samba Do Aviao -
1841 tk.14 Manha De Carnaval Blue Note LT-993, 0946 3 85193 2 4
1842 tk.15 What Now My Love -
1843 tk.24 Night Song Blue Note BN-LA394-H2, 0946 3 85193 2 4, (J) TOCJ-50277
1844 tk.32 Here's That Rainy Day Blue Note LT-993, 0946 3 85193 2 4
1845 tk.41 Blues For Del -

* Blue Note BN-LA394-H2   Stanley Turrentine
* Blue Note LT-993, (J) TOCJ-50277   Stanley Turrentine - New Time Shuffle
* Blue Note 0946 3 85193 2 4   Stanley Turrentine - A Bluish Bag

Stanley Turrentine

Blue Mitchell, Tommy Turrentine, trumpet; Julian Priester, trombone; Jerry Dodgion, flute, alto sax; Pepper Adams, clarinet, baritone sax; Al Gibbons, bass clarinet, tenor sax; Stanley Turrentine, tenor sax; McCoy Tyner, piano; Walter Booker, bass; Mickey Roker, drums; Duke Pearson, arranger.

Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, June 9, 1967

1904 tk.16 With This Ring Blue Note 0946 3 85193 2 4
1905 tk.15 Silver Tears -
1906 tk.20 A Bluish Bag -
1907 tk.26 Come Back To Me -
1908 tk.30 Days Of Wine And Roses -
1909 tk.45 Message To Michael rejected

* Blue Note 0946 3 85193 2 4   Stanley Turrentine - A Bluish Bag

Stanley Turrentine

Joe Shepley, Marvin Stamm, trumpet, flugelhorn; Garnett Brown, Julian Priester, trombone; Al Gibbons, alto sax, flute, bass clarinet; Stanley Turrentine, tenor sax; Joe Farrell, tenor sax, flute; Mario Rivera, baritone sax; McCoy Tyner, piano; Bob Cranshaw, bass; Ray Lucas, drums; Duke Pearson, arranger.

Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, June 23, 1967

1910 tk.4 Better Luck Next Time Blue Note BN-LA394-H2, 50999 5 17462 2 3, (J) TOCJ-50277
1911 tk.11 Bonita -
1912 tk.14 Return Of The Prodigal Son Blue Note LT-993, (Eu) 7243 4 93991 2 9, 50999 5 17462 2 3
1913 tk.16 Flying Jumbo Blue Note BN-LA394-H2, 50999 5 17462 2 3, (J) TOCJ-50277
1914 tk.27 Ain't No Mountain High Enough Blue Note LT-993, (Eu) 7243 4 93991 2 9, 50999 5 17462 2 3
1915 tk.32 New Time Shuffle Blue Note LT-993, 50999 5 17462 2 3

* Blue Note BN-LA394-H2   Stanley Turrentine
* Blue Note LT-993, (J) TOCJ-50277   Stanley Turrentine - New Time Shuffle
* Blue Note 50999 5 17462 2 3   Stanley Turrentine - Return Of The Prodigal Son
* Blue Note (Eu) 7243 4 93991 2 9   Stanley Turrentine Plays The Pop Hits - Easy!

Stanley Turrentine Nonet

Blue Mitchell, trumpet; Garnett Brown, trombone; James Spaulding, alto sax, flute; Stanley Turrentine, tenor sax; McCoy Tyner, piano; Duke Pearson, organ, arranger; Bob Cranshaw, bass; Ray Lucas, drums; Richard Landrum, congas, bongos, tambourine.

Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, July 28, 1967

1928 tk.3 The Look Of Love Blue Note 50999 5 17462 2 3
1929 tk.14 You Want Me To Stop Loving You Blue Note B1-31883, 50999 5 17462 2 3
1930 tk.18 Dr. Feelgood (alternate take) Blue Note 50999 5 17462 2 3
1930 tk.21 Dr. Feelgood -
1931 tk.34 Up, Up And Away unissued
1932 tk.36 Georgy Girl -
1933 tk.39 A Foggy Day Blue Note CDP 7243 8 29908 2 6

* Blue Note 50999 5 17462 2 3   Stanley Turrentine - Return Of The Prodigal Son
* Blue Note CDP 7243 8 29908 2 6   Stanley Turrentine - Easy Walker
* Blue Note B1-31883, CDP 7243 8 31883 2 1   Various Artists - The Lost Grooves

from jazdisco.org which basically replicates Cuscuna's BN discography

Nice sessions and hopefully someday they'll be reissued along with the 45rpm single session from 1968 to get all of Stan's work for BN out there:

1968

Stanley Turrentine Orchestra

Burt Collins, Marvin Stamm, trumpet, flugelhorn; Garnett Brown, Benny Powell, trombone; Stanley Turrentine, tenor sax; Jerry Dodgion, Joe Farrell, Al Gibbons, reeds; McCoy Tyner, piano; Everett Barksdale, guitar; Bob Cranshaw, bass; Grady Tate, drums.

Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, January 25, 1968

2033 Spooky Blue Note 45-1936, B1-31883, (Eu) 7243 4 93991 2 9
2034 Elusive Butterfly Blue Note (Eu) 7243 4 93991 2 9
2035 Love Is Blue Blue Note 45-1936
2036 When I Look Into Your Eyes unissued

* Blue Note (Eu) 7243 4 93991 2 9   Stanley Turrentine Plays The Pop Hits - Easy!
* Blue Note B1-31883, CDP 7243 8 31883 2 1   Various Artists - The Lost Grooves
* Blue Note 45-1936   Stanley Turrentine - Spooky / Love Is Blue

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Posted (edited)

On 12/20/2015 at 1:17 AM, Shawn said:

Turrentine is one of my all-time favorite players, he was a master.  Thankfully I got a chance to see him at Jazz Alley in Seattle about 6 months before he passed away, I spoke with him briefly after the gig and he also signed a copy of my Comin' Your Way CD.  

One of my favorites:

71L-WS4-VAL._SY355_.jpgYes. Easy Walker among the best and anything with his brother, Horace etc.  

 

Edited by Holy Ghost

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I was just listening to a Ray Charles compilation of some of his Swingtime material and, when "Kissa me baby" came on I thought - for the first time - what the fuck was Stanley Turrentine doing on the west coast in 1950!!!???

(Apart from making a Swingtime session with Ray Charles, that is.)

(Stanley would have been sixteen then...)

Anyone know?

MG

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I thought this was somewhat known ... was he ID'd/name-checked in the Ray movie? I know Fulson was.

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Well, when Jim posted above, I thought I'd read about working for Fulson before, but had forgotten it this evening.

Stan started at the same age as Gator, but didn't have something approaching a hit single.

MG

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When I think of Turrentine, I tend to think "Blue Note" first, often overlooking one of my favorite recordings of his:

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A hip record.

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Listening now to this.  Recorded February 1992, but the lineup looks like it could be a Blue Note.  Sounds like that, too.

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I always felt that was nice but somewhat lackadaisical. "If I could' is a bit more alive.

MG

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There's a story in the liners to one of his BN albums, about someone else in a territory band arriving late to a shared gig in Texas and the other band is already blowing the place down, not from the bandstand but from on top of the tables all around the room.  To my mind Stanley brought the grit that playing those gigs would give you to every situation he played in, no matter how far removed they might be.  It's why I own everything he did for BN, even the shmaltzy ones.  That said I own precious little of his post BN work.

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Shirley and Stan getting down on the 5 Royales hit, Think

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1 hour ago, danasgoodstuff said:

I own precious little of his post BN work.

His CTI recordings have aged incredibly well (as have many of the other Sebesky-era albums on that label).

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4 hours ago, felser said:

His CTI recordings have aged incredibly well (as have many of the other Sebesky-era albums on that label).

Thanks, but no thanks.  I've tried his CTI work many times and it's just not for me.  

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