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Happy birthday organissimo forum! Bertrand.

I will probably not be able to join you guys at the allotted time, unfortunately. But here's a tip of the hat and a happy birthday to the greatest jazz forum on the internet! Ron Blake told me last night what cool gentlemen our gracious hosts Jim, Joe and Randy are. Happy birthday organissimo.org! Bertrand.

The article on harmony in the earlier editions of the Grove attributed 'Nefertiti' to Miles Davis. Has that error been corrected? Bertrand.

Through some fluke, Fantasy was up for sale on e-bay in middle of the night. I bought it for $1. Be prepared for the MOTHER of all jazz reissue programs. Bertrand.

Tickets purchased (for the second show). Thanks for the recommendation. I'm especially looking forward to hear how they treat the Shorter tunes. I'm also very impressed that they dug up 'Buh's Bossa' - this is a very rare Morgan track from Soul Finger which is not covered too often. Tonight, I'm going to go see Ron Blake with Christian McBride, David Gilmore and Teeron Gully. Gully is killer, for anyone who's ever seen him! Bertrand.

Martial Solal had to cancel his concert in D.C. last night due to a medical emergency. I hope he is alright. Does anyone have any more details? Bertrand.

The Library of Congress has a tape in the Newport Jazz Festival collection of a July 1961 Jazz Messengers concert during which Lee Morgan was absent and replaced by Kenny Dorham. It is the only known recording of Kenny with Wayne Shorter. They do 'Paper Moon' and 'Moanin''. I hope this can be issued someday. Bertrand.

I saw that Ray Barretto is bringing his Art Blakey tribute to the Kennedy Center on 3/19. I noticed that the CD has four Shorter tunes and a Lee Morgan tune (and 'Frere Jacques' ???), so I was kind of tempted to go see this. Any opinions on the CD or the live band (if anyone has seen it)? Is this a good Blakey tribute or is it kind of hokey? I sort of want to decide today because I will be there tonight so I could buy a ticket onsite and avoid the phone-charge fee. Thanks in advance, Bertrand.

Cannonball started on trumpet. There are even some private tapes floating around of him playing that instrument in Florida, before he moved to NYC (no, I don't have them). Bertrand.

The difference will be that the vinyl copy they will use to dub the RVG version will be cleaner than the one used for the previous version!!! Bertrand.

Getting back to Woody Shaw This is really a beautiful site. It is a thrill to see how Woody's son is preserving his father's legacy in such a meaningful way. My son Matthew (4 next Sunday) is really into Woody's music. I made a couple of CDs for him of Woody's best moments. Some of his favorites are 'Pretty Eyes', 'Hello To The Wind', 'Mexican Hip Dance', 'Spiderman Blues' and 'The Moontrane'. In fact, we were walking through the park yesterday morning, and he started humming 'Hello To The Wind'! Bertrand.

Dewey Redman's The Struggle Continues should be on this list as well. Bertrand.

Jim, We went tonight, but Edelman had a sub (for the next few weeks in fact), so I couldn't ask him. Butch told me he wrote two more compositions: 'America, America' and 'Pink Elephant'. He said that he gave the latter to Cecil Payne, and that he later heard it on the radio, so someone must have recorded it. I suspect it was not credited to Butch. Brownie, Butch told me he remembered the Timmons session very well. I forgot to tell him that Perkins had passed away. I suspect that he is not aware of this sad news. Bertrand.

Thanks, RC, the link doesn't work right now, I'll try again later. John and I used to chat all the time as fellow Shorter nuts, but after we had our son I got too busy and we sort of lost touch. I planned to get in touch with him at a later stage, but not in the early phase of this project for reasons too complicated to get into here. Bertrand.

I am working on a Wayne Shorter discography, and I know that my all-knowledgeable friends on this board can help me sort through the knottier issues. Here's the first one that came up, and it's a doozy. I have it from a very good source that Wayne's first known session would not be Kelly Great (8/59) on Vee Jay, but a 1956(!) date with pianist John Eaton on Columbia that was never issued. Now at first, I was very intrigued, first by the prospect that one day I might get to hear what Wayne sounded like when we was in college, and second by the fact that Eaton is not the kind of person I would imagine Wayne playing with. He lives in the D.C. area, so I know a little about him - he's much more of a traditionalist. Here's a site with some info: http://www.eatonpiano.com/ But a google search also turns up another John Eaton: http://composers21.com/compdocs/eatonj.htm notice that he was active as a jazz pianist from 1953 to 1971, but also that he studied with Milton Babbitt and Roger Sessions. It is intriguing to think that Wayne may have recorded with this guy. So, which John Eaton is it? My source says that although the Wayne session is unissued, Eaton has other LPs on Columbia that did come out. Does anyone have any discographical info on these? The choice of material might help steer me one way or the other. Note that both web sites give phone numbers for these gentlemen, but I'd rather know beforehand which it is more likely to be, so as not to make an idiot of myself if I do call. Thanks in advance, Bertrand.

One of the Librarians at the Library of Congress is preparing an exhibit for the 50th anniversary of Brown vs. Baord of education, and wants to include (if available) some sheet music for compositions inspired by the events surrounding this decision. Of course, he thought of 'Fables Of Faubus'. He's also looking into a piece Lena Horne did called 'Now', because some correspondence he found seems to imply that this piece is also about these events. However, neither of us has heard it. I know some of you will have some other suggestions! Thanks in advance, Bertrand.

No, it means I forget things from one day to the next! I came up with the Tyner today after looking through a database at the Library of Congress called OCLC. Somehow, I just plain forgot that you had already listed it! So, apart from the Dixieland date that Chuck noticed, his last recording date was the Timmons (which I have never heard). I don't think that one's on CD yet. Bertrand.

Here's one I'd forgotten: he's on side one of McCoy Tyner's Today And Tomorrow (Impulse!), which is a killer record. Bertrand.

I'd go with Wayne over Sonny is a heartbeat - he's in his prime RIGHT NOW. His touring schedule is at www.imnworld.com (I saw 4 concerts in Paris that were never listed there, however). He is in Atlanta on 4/3/04. I may be at the Miami show in May, if I wind up going to Florida. Bertrand.

Happy birthday, Alan. Bertrand.

What took you so long?

Butch has four recorded (and copyrighted) compositions that I know of: 1. 'Eric Walks' from Leapin' And Lopin' 2. 'The Way I Feel' from Vertigo 3. 'The Backbone' from A Swingin' Affair 4. 'Lost' from A Fickle Sonance A friend of mine who used to play with him said he pulled out another original once, but she couldn't remember the title. She did not think it was one of those four. I have found no other copyrights, however. Thanks to everyone so far. Keep 'em coming! Bertrand.

Last post form the moderator says 'we accidentally deleted all the old bnbb material in the exchange. So sorry.' (I'm paraphrasing). WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING OVER THERE! Bertrand.

The jam session co-led by Butch Warren and pianist Peter Edelman is at the 'old' location at 5516 Colorado Avenue NW (corner of Colorado and Longfellow, just off 14th street and just south of the intersection of 14th and Military road). They start around 8:00 PM in theory. Last week they started at 8:20, but the week before Peter got lost picking up Butch and they didn't hit until after 9:00. We skipped going this week, but will probably be there next week, since on 3/3 I will be at the U street Twins location for the Peter Brotzmann/Hamid Drake/William Parker trio. Anyone who can come support them would be great; it's been pretty empty so far, although some excellent musicians like saxophonist Fred Foss and trumpeter Michael Thomas have sat in. When they were very late 2 weeks ago, my son (almost 4) started speculating (out loud) about Butch's whereabouts: 'Maybe he's getting a haircut', 'Maybe he's buying new shoes', 'Maybe he's using the potty'. So THAT'S WHY jazz musicians are often late for gigs! He's getting the complete jazz experience, including the 'sitting around waiting for musicians to show up'. Bertrand.

My son and I have been checking out Butch Warren at a jam session on most wednesdays (not tonight) at Twins' in D.C. I was thinking of making a compilation CD for him of some of Butch's greatest moments. I have the BN discography, and a Monk discography, but does anyone know of other sessions with Butch? I have: Kenny Dorham Jazz Contemporary The Arrival of KD Elmo Hope Celebrity/Beacon sessions Walter Bishop Trio (Prestige) Booker Ervin: Exultation Any others? Ideally, a response from someone with one of the Jazz discography CD-ROMS (Lord et alia) would be great! By the way, I think his last recording session was 2/12/64 (rejected Grant Green on BN). That's forty years ago! Thanks in advance, Bertrand.