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I have a few CECMA records in the racks. The Ragin is one I'd like to hear. The Ragin's very good I've got two single LPs of that music.Tremendous and oft overlooked I think

Hey, I bought an LP today(thankfully not expensive) that I forgot already had on CD ....wish I'd thought as long as you had to

I think you're correct but the usual Nessa pithiness can sometimes seem rather dismissive (in this case of others enjoyment/obsession) How about "Is this LP available on CD?" Tricky one that, I find

That's a good one. Yeah, certainly seems to be on the first couple of listens. Enjoying the use of sitar, cellos and vocals. Makes me want to check out more Jay Clayton

Marc Levin Ensemble - Songs Dances and Prayers [sweet Dragon] Love the inserts well you've got to treat yourself occasionally, haven't you......?

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Sadly this comment is not about this thread....I can't believe you've never experienced the buzz of finding a recording you've long wanted to hear. Maybe you have them all presented to you on a plate? One of my 'great finds' was an AEOC LP (the cover looked 'cool' and the name was intriguing) when all I'd heard of Jazz was Ben Webster - certainly changed my outlook. Also meant I ended up buying a fair few Nessa titles too

Always intrigued when Shipp is involved

seeline, I agree that his website gives ready access to his "thoughts" as he tags them. I also agree with your perception of the change to extremity in his views (but again maybe that's a matter of access). I actually wonder how much the folk that have interviewed him in the UK music press have researched his non-musical opinions but I can also see your point that they may have chosen not to - a point I made about editorial decisions in an earlier post. Of course there may be examples where they have called him to account but I've not read them. I can't claim to have read the entire UK music press output of the last ten years, despite what my partner says

This conflation seems fundamental to your argument but I can't actually see any evidence that you preesnt to support this conflation, unless I've missed something upthread. and the interviews then tend to be about the supposed paradox, or whatever one calls it, between 1) and 2). Also, these interviews typically allowing Atzmon a good deal of room to expound on his arguably extreme views. Really so? Can you link to such articles? I only ask as I've read many articles about Atzmon over the years in the UK music press and rarely are the two elements of his life given equal measure. In the music interviews there may be passing reference to his political activism but not to my knowledge to the detail of his beliefs. I'd go as far to say that anyone who'd read the music press in UK about him would be surprised by depth his political activism. Such a lack of explicit conflation may well be editorial decisions of the publications not wanting to have their content politicised. It may be that Atzmon doesn't expouse his more extreme views in these interviews precisely to prevent potential listeners being turned off by such unpalatable views lovely playing......... Some more of Atzmon's greatest hits (sorry, but I can't find one of the interviews in the general press that gives Atzmon the musician a chance to go on about his "views" because he is a talented musician, but I'm pretty sure I've seen some): http://www.sott.net/...th-Gilad-Atzmon Robert Faurrison who is sympathetically to say the least interviewed by Atzmon in the long clip linked to above, is among the world’s most prominent Holocaust deniers. There's little doubting his unsavoury and despicable views and this thread has done good service in exposing them. My point was your claim of conflation and thus using his musical career to directly promote his political ideas which I'm still not convinced has happened, at least here in UK

This conflation seems fundamental to your argument but I can't actually see any evidence that you preesnt to support this conflation, unless I've missed something upthread. and the interviews then tend to be about the supposed paradox, or whatever one calls it, between 1) and 2). Also, these interviews typically allowing Atzmon a good deal of room to expound on his arguably extreme views. Really so? Can you link to such articles? I only ask as I've read many articles about Atzmon over the years in the UK music press and rarely are the two elements of his life given equal measure. In the music interviews there may be passing reference to his political activism but not to my knowledge to the detail of his beliefs. I'd go as far to say that anyone who'd read the music press in UK about him would be surprised by depth his political activism. Such a lack of explicit conflation may well be editorial decisions of the publications not wanting to have their content politicised. It may be that Atzmon doesn't expouse his more extreme views in these interviews precisely to prevent potential listeners being turned off by such unpalatable views lovely playing.........

This conflation seems fundamental to your argument but I can't actually see any evidence that you preesnt to support this conflation, unless I've missed something upthread.

"that one wonders (I wonder) whether his music has come to serve a more or less calculated pied-piper function" But I'm perfectly capable of listening to and appreciating his music and being able to make a judgement on his 'political' stance seperately. To suggest otherwise i think might show little regard for his audience in general.

Great. I don't think I've ever seen him do a sub-standard gig. that I can believe. He's a rare sighting in UK but the couple of times I've seen him were very memorable

"Large ensemble" will do me, just fine. Glad to hear he's approachable and that you got the autograph. How was the gig?

Great read, thanks. Good to see they're being done right be for this anniversary. makes we want to try and finish the Lewis book

I'll second the 'Blow Up' and add 'Dockings' on Label Bleu which is the only other I have. 'Alors' on Futura is also very good from the parts I've heard (coupled with Surman)

Yes, that could be good too

Eve Risse is a must for me after the amazing 'En Corps'

Yes, of course. I'd recommend his duo album with Dominic Lash 'Two Plump Daughters' on Creative Sources

I'm on the next train to Manchester.......

Thanks for posting those details Xybert I think it's the Council of Balance isn't it (I thought I read that somewhere)? In which case I'm assuming it'll be a big band as on the 'Genesis' disc of 'Genesis/Opening the Way' double set. I hope it is because that's a favourite

from JHR's last list perhaps? Indeed, now spinning from the same list Kenny Wheeler--------Song for someone------(Incus) Good grab

from JHR's last list perhaps?

Thanks for the thoughts on the Vesala He played a solo set followed by a duo with improvising guitarist Lauri Hyvarinen. Pretty astonishing evening of music that seemed little rooted in jazz but more in some long past folk music. Takamaki played a bewildering array of instruments - wooden flutes, Shakuhachi, alto, tenor, soprano and what looked like homemade options (memories of his Krakatau instrumentation). Some fairly astonishing wordless singing and vocalising in the mix too. I came away thinking his playing was all about the sound of breath on different materials - his solo set started with wood progressing through the sax family to the tenor before returning to wood and other little instruments, ending with voice and the sound of percussion instrument scraped across the mic guard. No mention, nor sign of any new recordings. All very self-effacing. It is heavy on recitation, but with a recognizable Sound & Fury sound. There are some very short instrumental breaks, but mostly you are getting a reading from the Kalevala in Finnish with some musical accompaniment. I really like it, but I must admit I don't spin it that often. Thank you. I think that balance may have swung me away from it . My interest in Finnish poetry being sadly and unjustifiably small