John L

It was great to have him with us for so long. RIP

I have the Masters of Jazz disc. Irakli de Davrichewy wrote the liner notes and takes credit for redating the Paramount session from December to September. His logic is that, first, Paramount matrix numbers often did not follow the chronological sequence of when music was recorded and, second, by the December date, several of the musicians present at the session had already left the band and were replaced by other musicians. Curiously, he does not state in the text exactly which musicians but cites supporting evidence as being from a Preston Jackson interview in the November 1942 Down Beat and a quote of Johnny St. Cyr in the December 1948 Jazz Finder. He entertains the idea that Oliver could have brought the musicians back just for this session but believes that to be highly improbable. The month of September just seems to be a guess as a likely time in his view.

And don't forget to listen to some prime Louis Jordan, as well as Wynonie Harris, Big Joe Turner, Roy Brown, and Little Willie John.

If I could have only one blues disc, it would be disc 2 of this one.

Luciano - The Jazz Up release is indeed incomplete. I have it. Parkeriana cuts out in the middle of Johnny Coles' solo on that CD. Landscape issues a lot more music from the concert on 2 CDs, including Meditations that is not on Jazz Up.

Luciano - Your confusion is understandable. As Romualdo's posting of the discography above shows, there were two different Paris concerts. Both of them were recorded. Different CD and LP packages have released various mixes of these tracks, and some packages include tracks from both of the two different concerts. The discography above should help you sort out which tracks are where. Johnny Coles only played on So Long Eric in the first concert. He became sick and missed the rest of the tour.

To each his own, I guess. For me, it is just the opposite. I like the sound on the set with Mobley just fine. But I do not like the sound on "Meet You.." at all. I am far from an audiophile but I actually avoid listening to "Meet You..." because of the sound.

You're gonna dig it. That new 1951 recording is a never-ending blast!

RIP. I was somehow sure that he would make it to 100. What a career !

RIP!

RIP. His impact on American music. was huge.

Yes, I think that the mention of the Design label by Bob Blumenthal was just a mistake. Bud recorded during that period for only Morgan/Verve and RCA.

This is the only studio session made by Miles when Bill Evans was still an actual member of the band. For Kind of Blue, Miles called Evans back just for the recording session. There are the live dates with Evans in the band as well.

I have been really enjoying the first Red Norvo session here with Mildred Bailey. It reminds me that I need to listen to them more often.

I entered all of the data myself for all 11 discs. It used to be easy to convey that information to the database. But I don't see how to do it anymore.

There are actually many other examples of tracks included that were never released as V-Discs. I suspect now that the Fats Waller omission might be due to the fact that the masters for these tracks are apparently missing.

OK. I guess that I had assumed that unissued tracks were omitted only if the music was lost. But the Fats Waller case is a counterexample to that. By the way, they include Stealin' Apples in the box from a Peanuts Hucko session of May 14, 1947 from which no V-Discs were issued. So that would seem to be a counterexample to your hypothesis as well.,

Lon - I didn't understand that as the logic. There are actually a lot of tracks on this set recorded at V-Disc sessions that were never issued on V-Disc. I am certainly not disputing their claim that "Silvery Moon" came from a radio broadcast.

I have always really loved the Fats Waller V-Disc Session. But I was a bit disappointed that Mosaic left off 3 tracks from this session: The Ladies Who Sing With the Band, To A Wild Rose / Don't Get Along Anymore, and St. Louis Blues. The Mosaic discography correctly lists them as "unissued" by V-Disc. But they have appeared on other releases, including the JSP complete Fats Waller series. Mosaic also omitted another track commonly thought to be from this session, By the Light of the Silvery Moon, claiming that the track actually comes from a radio broadcast.

I actually stand corrected. The Woody Herman small group session IS on this box. Sorry for the error in my previous post.

OK, thanks.

My set arrived. I am really looking forward to digging in. Having read the booklet, I am still a bit puzzled about how they chose what to include in this set. This box is almost all traditional (mostly Chicago-style) jazz and vocals. That struck me as very strange at first, given that a lot of well-known V-discs were made by swing bands and small groups from swing bands. The "Producer's Note" indicates that only genuine V-Disc recording sessions were included, as opposed to V-Discs taken from sessions made for other labels or live broadcasts. That would seem to explain why none of the many Duke Ellington V-Discs were included. But the Count Basie Band certainly had genuine V-Disc sessions, including a special one with Lester Young in 1944. Perhaps they should have included in the note that all big band V-Disc sessions were also excluded? But that wouldn't seem to explain why Woody Herman's small group V-Disc sessions are not in the box. Was the Bob Crosby small group session included because it fit the traditional jazz bill as opposed to the more modern swing of Woody Herman? A bit more information would have been useful.

I have been really enjoying the expanded Town Hall Concert since it was posted on YouTube. I also recently saw a quote by A.B. Spellman to the effect that "Blues Misused" from this concert is one of Ornette Coleman's greatest performances. Fate would have it that this track was not included on the planned Blue Note album that we now have on YouTube. Ornette did record it later as a track for Who's Crazy. But I would be interested to hear the Town Hall version that includes piano, guitar, and electric bass.

OK. I don't think there was ever a question about there maybe being more than one 1940s session released by Roost. There is a very different second session released by Roost (this one actually recorded by Roost) from September, 1953 with George Duvivier and Art Taylor. The 1940s session, which you argue is from 1947 and Pullman argues is from 1949, was apparently obtained by Roost from another source.

Thanks, Allen. From the same session as what?