John L

Well, reading Jim's frank, clear, and very informed opinions about music is one of the main reasons why I come here. So the sword can cut both ways.

Mnytime wrote me a bunch of crazy personal messages, including how Mohammed Ali, Michael Jackson, and other famous people were his close friends, and how he almost died the other day from some bizarre disaster or illness (a different one almost every week), etc., etc. Remember when he came on the Jazz Corner board to say that he didn't understand why his relatives hadn't arrived on their plane, then naming one of the planes that had just crashed into the trade tower on 9/11, and pretending that he first heard about it from us? And it goes on and on. He was 100% fake.

As we have discussed earlier, misunderstandings are easy on boards like this. We cannot see each other or hear the tone of how something is expressed. Non-native English speakers are particularly prone to misunderstandings. It is quite common for people to take offense on boards like this and leave, even if the reason is a misunderstanding. I attribute the fact that more people may have left the board because of an interaction with Jim than with most of the rest of us to (1) Jim posts more than the rest of us do and (2) he often expresses strong opinions. Most of us appreciate Jim's participation in that regard very much. Sure, we need to make an effort not to offend other people. But making any sort of judgement in this case is not straightforward (IMO).

Agreed. This is really top notch. I have listened to it several times already, and it keeps growing on me.

RIP

RIP

Speaking of classic soul singers, I just heard that Gwen McCrae left the building.

Very true! I guess that Smokey Robinson also deserves a nod. And there is Bettye Lavette! Add Latimore and Wee Willie Walker. Still, there aren't many.

Damn! He was a favorite of mine. RIP So who is the greatest living classic soul singer now? Maybe Gladys Knight, William Bell, Ronnie Isley, Stevie Wonder. Ann Peebles, Aaron Neville or Mavis Staples? There are not too many left.

I think that Peter defined it well as bebop playing coming directly out of Bud Powell without more modern influences. That isn't to say that it is more "real" in any other sense than other bop playing.

Well, that is a great example of an excellent and informative short review by Scott Yanow. After reading it, I did not expect to see his name at the end.

I actually prefer guides that are highly opinionated as long as the opinions are thoughtful and well-informed. While some of Scott Yanow's reviews can be worthwhile for identifying, for example, the best sounding editions of various recordings, I find a lot of his writing to be rather vacuous in providing any real insights into the music.

Actually, it appears to be U Mass, not Boston College. What I have was recorded from a 1997 WKCR broadcast in New York. University of Mass.. Amherst MA. November 30, 1967 - Ornette Coleman, Charlie Haden, David Izenzon, Ed Blackwell 1) Sadness. 2:59 2) C.O.D. 12:12 3) Unidentified trumpet feature. 10:34 4) Unidentified (the head sounds very familiar but I can't place it). 7:26 5) Mix of tracks with interruptions- 9:58

I have a concert recording not in your discography that is supposedly from Boston University on November 30, 1967 with Haden, Izenzon, and Blackwell.

Nice! 👏

RIP. This makes me feel very old. I saw the young Band many many times live in concert. Garth was always amazing.

I had trouble getting with some of his movies. But I consider Mulholland Drive to be a stone masterpiece. RIP

These multiple artist names drive me crazy when trying to manage my jazz musician database. Which number did I give to identify Joe Harris the drummer versus Joe Harris the trombone player? Joe Morris the trumpet player and Joe Morris the guitarist? Willie Jones the 1920s drummer versus Willie Jones the 1950s drummer? Max Bennett the trombone player and Max Bennett the bass player? And I have lost track of how many jazz musicians recorded under the name Joe Williams. The Lord Database is also completely jumbled in the identification of different artists with the same name.

Here is something that I never thought that I would see - posted by Loren Schoenberg!

"Out of Sight" from 1964 was already at least a mini explosion.

I only have the Tradition CD that is entitled "Running Wild." That sound is OK but I have never heard the other alternatives. The Tradition CD only has 11 tracks. So I assume that it is therefore inferior to the other options.

Probably Chronological Classics. One disc has his recordings from 1921-1928. Another disc goes from 1928-1938. if you are also interested in the piano rolls, Tradition had a disc that contained them.

Probably the worst liner notes I ever read were from Robert Levin for Shirley Scott's "The Soul is Willing" that features Stanley Turrentine. The notes begin with the stupid line that "All jazz, directly or indirectly, has come out of Harlem," and go steeply down hill from there. ..."it must be said that it [the music] has obvious limitations...The limitations of the music result from the limitations of the community from which the music comes. Harlem is, after all, a ghetto, and many sources are not easily accessible to it. The art it produces is one where the controlling emotion is frequently anger..." etc., etc. etc. It amazes me that Prestige would have permitted this kind of garbage to be put on one of its records.

Thanks. That was nice. I wonder what Thelonious would have thought of it? NRBQ has consistently been one of the most interesting rock bands (IMO).

It was great to have him with us for so long. RIP