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Glad you liked it, perhaps others did as well. By the way, of the works listed above, I think these are the ones that I own recordings of. The best ones (IMHO), are the Ives, Toch(!), Barber, Sessions(!), Rouse, and Schuller works... 1944: Howard Hanson (1896-1981). Symphony no. 4, op. 34. 1945: Aaron Copland (1900-1990). Appalachian Spring. 1947: Charles Ives (1874-1954). Symphony no. 3. 1948: Walter Piston (1894-1976). Symphony no. 3 1956: Ernst Toch (1887-1964). Symphony no. 3. 1961: Walter Piston (1894-1976). Symphony no. 7. 1963: Samuel Barber (1910-1981). Piano Concerto no. 1, op. 38. 1969: Karel Husa (b. 1921). String Quartet no. 3. 1982: Roger Sessions (1896-1985). Concerto for Orchestra. 1983: Ellen Zwilich (b. 1939). Three Movements for Orchestra. (Symphony no. 1.) 1993: Christopher Rouse (b. 1949). Trombone Concerto. 1994: Gunther Schuller (b. 1925). Of Reminiscences and Reflections.

Just found these stories that ran on the News Hour with Jim Lehrer (at pbs.org), and with the more recent ones, you can listen to them (RealAudio) if you'd rather not read the whole thing online. Go to the links below to read (or in some cases, listen or watch) them... August 17, 2001: Growing Apart - Gwen Ifill investigates the trend of increasing segregation in American schools and society. July 11, 2000: Race in America - A discussion about a six-week New York Times series examining the role of race in the lives of everyday people. March 2, 1998: A Nation Divided - Is America fragmenting into separate and unequal societies? Jan. 15, 1996: Reflecting On Race - On the day remembering Martin Luther King Jr.'s birth, Charlayne Hunter-Gault talks to Benjamin DeMott. His most recent book is The Trouble with Friendship: Why Americans Can't Think Straight about Race. Dec. 25, 1995: Open Thinking - Charlayne Hunter-Gault talks to psychiatrist James Comer of Yale University, the author of several books on race relations. Nov. 23, 1995: Reflections On Race - A reunion of former North Florida University students who had taken a unique psychology class on race relations in the early 1970's. (This one looks particularly interesting.) I certainly haven't had a chance to listen to all of these yet, but I'm posting them here as much for myself as anyone else, for future followup. -- Rooster T. By The way, here is the complete list of "Race Relations - Background Reports" from the PBS News Hour web-site.

Check out this page: click here There are sound samples too!!!!! Here's the whole site: Frank's Vinyl Museum Lot's of wacky albums to see and sample. It's not entirely clear (or at least it wasn't to me), but the motorcycle icons near the bottom of the page let you go from page to page through the list of albums.

I'll happily add another recomendation for "Yo Miles!", which I think is really outstanding (most all of it, but all of Wadada Leo Smith's playing, especially!!), and, as someone said above, it is a ton of fun too. And actually, I honestly think some of it is nearly as good as the real thing - as good as Miles in the 70's. Ok, not as impressive, because it's an homage to a style that exists now, but didn't exist when Miles was doing it. But, just on musical terms, I really do think "Yo Miles!" is probably the best of the several 70's Miles tributes that seem to be cropping up these days. Sure it's long-winded, but wasn't Miles long-winded in the 70's too??? ( The combined time of the two discs of "Yo Miles!" is nearly 2 hours and 40 minutes long, so it could have possibly done with some editing here and there. BUT, I haven't heard a live Miles record from the 70's that I couldn't have said the very same thing about. ) In short, by all means get it!!!

Does anybody have a complete list of the BN titles in this most recent "Time Life" series?? Meaning the series with the "blue and orange" versions of the classic covers?? (There could be a title or two worth picking up, if they could be had much cheaper than their Japanese counterparts.)

A precursor to Organissimo???

One other thing I've thought about doing (while I'm still job hunting), is some sort of regular volunteer work at the "American Jazz Museum", which is here in Kansas City, located at the corner of 18th & Vine, in the historic neighborhood where all the clubs were that Charlie Parker played in, and Basie, and dozens of other bands from Kansas City Jazz's hey-day. That neighborhood, back then and even now, is 95% Black, and I think 80%-95% of the employees at the museum are Black. (The "Negro Leagues Baseball Museum" is in the same complex.) I figure that it could be an interesting experience, and would put me in the position of being the minority for a change. ( Guess this topic's gonna always be slow... )

What's up with that? Make sure you check out "page 2" of this guy's feedback. It's as 'priceless' as page 1. Really, not to be missed...

Yes, and speaking of Larry Young - I think Patton's "Boogaloo" is the closest Patton ever got to Larry Young's more 'outside' dates. Another reason it ("Boogaloo") is my favorite Patton date.

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I listened to both "Dance With Death" and the 2nd LP of "One For One" today, and I plan to listen to them both again tomorrow. As I mentioned in another thread... ...as long as I'm not expecting to hear the kind of "Charles Tolliver" I'm most used to hearing, I'm otherwise quite happy with both of these dates. In particular, side one of the 2nd "One for One" LP (the session without the string quartet) has the makings of a really fine album. Shame the other tunes from this date didn't turn out, otherwise I think they would have made for an album every bit as fine (and just as accessible) as "Grass Roots". I also mentioned (in another thread) that both of these albums would fit on one CD (total time = 79:10), so that'd make for a tasty Conn release someday. ( PS: I should mention that at various times in the past, I've gone back and forth about liking "DwD" and "OfO"(LP2) to varying degrees. I've always thought they were both at least "OK", but sometimes (when I'm in the right mood, or right frame of mind) I find I like both of these albums nearly as much as anything else Andrew did on BN. But I certainly don't always think that, every single time I hear them. Perplexing, indeed. ) One other quick thought specifically about side one of the 2nd LP of "OfO" (meaning the side without the string quartet). Today I put my finger on what seems truely unique about this side, among all of Andrew's BN output (and beyond). It has a very "Strata East"-ish vibe going on with it!!! Damn, what a whole string of Andrew Hill albums on Strata East (in the early 70's) would-have/could-have sounded like??? Yeow!!!!!!!!

(Thanks, Moose, for pointing out how many times I used the word "tiny" in the same paragraph!! ) I'm only 34 years old, but like you, I already know what that "wish I had done more with my life" thing is like. In some ways, faced with what will probably end up being a career change (I'm job-hunting now), I find myself in the middle of a sort of mid-life crisis, about 10 or 15 years ahead of schedule. And I find myself wanting to do more in areas like this (the topic of this thread), but struggling to figure out how. As a white guy myself, I do feel like there's a greater need to me to reach out, or at least to look for other people (of every racial background) who also want to reach out, and reach out to them. Just yesterday afternoon, there was an African-American gentleman going door-to-door, looking for donations for a homeless shelter. He was probably in his early 50's, maybe late 40's. He introduced himself, and I offered to shake his hand, which he did. I generally try to be nice to everybody (without being 'overly nice', if you know what I mean), but in the case of minorities - I always try doubly hard to be both nice and respectful, perhaps surprising them with my holding the door open for them, or saying thankyou to people in service industry jobs (waiters, sackers at the grocery store, the kid behind the counter at the drycleaners). It's not that I'm any 'less nice' to the white people in those same jobs, but I honestly want to try to be a good person in my interactions with others who are different than me.

Appart from the obvious BN reissues, and Mosaic Select titles, here are a few I will probably seriously consider getting... Ralph Alessi - This Against That (RKM 03) May 27 — with Don Byron, David Gilmore, Drew Gress, Nasheet Waits Ralph Alessi - Vice & Virtue (RKM 02) May 27 — recorded in 1999 Greg Osby - St. Louis Shoes (Blue Note) June 10 The Classical Jazz Quartet - Plays Rachmaninoff (Vertical Records) June Charlie Haden - The Montreal Tapes (Verve) — with Joe Henderson and Al Foster Jason Moran Trio - The Bandwagon (Blue Note) Aug 19 — recorded live at the Village Vanguard, Nov. 2002 Miles Davis - Tribute To Jack Johnson Sessions - 5 CDs? (Columbia/Legacy) early Sept (2003) — 34 tracks; about 4.5 hours previously unreleased Miles Davis - Juan Le Pins Sessions (Columbia) - 2 CDs – 2003/04?? — July 1969 concerts with Shorter, Corea, Holland, and DeJohnette. The second concert is unissued.

Go to jazzmatazz - upcoming releases, and tell everyone what you're looking forward to most!!!!

Perhaps I'm not the only one who doesn't own any of these. Which one or ones is/are the best?? And why?? Here's a link to a review of all of them from www.52ndstreet.com.

Hey, could we hold off on doing "Conflict" as the AOTW until I get back from my trip to the Pacific Northwest?? I won't have any Internet access for a couple weeks in mid-June, so sometime after that would be good (after June 23rd, to be exact). ( Not my turn to pick anyway, so I gotta hope somebody else chooses it. )

Thanks A.B.!!! - and actually, I downloaded that Kirk show (from Darkfunk) just last night!!! Haven't had the chance to listen to it yet, but plan to in the next few days.

Excellent news!!! Between "Conflict" being available in Europe, and also on emusic - we should definitely do this as our album-of-the-week sometime soon. Maybe we could pick this well in advance of the week we're doing it, so people have time to get it and spin it a few times.

Half to say I'd never been to emusic before, at least not until 30 seconds ago. I saw OmniTone, and wondered if Tom Varner's albums were there, and they are.... Anyone who is a fan of Don Cherry's "Complete Communion" really needs to hear Tom Varner's "Second Communion", which is on emusic. Here's the skinny from AGM... Review of Second Communion, and here's the bio of Tom Varner, who plays French Horn(!!). You gotta hear this one...

Here's that same list (from the source above), FYI... ===== All in mini LP carton sleeve with bonus tracks where available: June 25, 2003 4001 Newk's Time / Sonny Rollins 4183 Talkin' About / Grant Green 4252 Sweet Honey Bee / Duke Pearson 4229 Got A Good Thing Goin' / John Patton 4060 At The Half Note Café Vol.1 / Donald Byrd 4061 At The Half Note Café Vol.2 / Donald Byrd 4227 Mode For Joe / Joe Henderson 4159 Judgement! / Andrew Hill 4085 Ready For Freddie / Freddie Hubbard 4129 Never Let Me Go / Stanley Turrentine July 23, 2003 1575 City Lights / Lee Morgan 1547 A Date With Jimmy Smith Vol.1 1548 A Date With Jimmy Smith Vol.2 4033 Soundin' Off / Dizzy Reece 4220 The Cape Verdean Blues / Horace Silver 4145 Shoutin' / Don Wilkerson 4174 The Way I Feel / Big John Patton 4277 Serenade To A Soul Sister / Horace Silver 4280 Midnight Creeper / Lou Donaldson 4260 Conquistador / Cecil Taylor Aug. 27, 2003 1561 Palo Congo / Sabu 4415 The Final Come Down / Grant Green 4141 Rockin' The Boat / Jimmy Smith 4200 Softly As A Summer Breeze / Jimmy Smith 4121 Elder Don / Don Wilkerson 4158 Good Move / Freddie Roach 4120 It Just Got To Be / The Three Sounds 4197 Out Of This World / The Three Sounds 4188 I'm Tryin' To Get Home / Donald Byrd 4118 Free Form / Donald Byrd Sept. 2003 4230 A Caddy For Daddy / Hank Mobley 4310 Goin' West / Grant Green 4106 Let Freedom Ring / Jackie McLean 4131 Silver's Serenade / Horace Silver 4238 Mustang / Donald Byrd 4172 Breaking Point / Freddie Hubbard 4326 Move Your Hand / Lonnie Smith 4136 African High Life / Solomon Ilori 1525 The Incredible Jimmy Smith At The Organ Vol.3 4164 Prayer Meetin' / Jimmy Smith Oct. 2003 4083 Dexter Calling / Dexter Gordon 4050 Home Cookin' / Jimmy Smith 4100 Jimmy Smith Plays Fats Waller 4092 The Golden Eight / Kenny Clarke 4342 Green Is Beautiful / Grant Green 4087 Let Me Tell You 'Bout It / Leo Parker 4189 Inner Urge / Joe Henderson 4177 Some Other Stuff / Grachan Moncur III 4214 Down With It / Blue Mitchell 4273 Hi Voltage / Hank Mobley Nov. 2003 4335 The Sixth Sense / Lee Morgan 4079 Gravy Train / Lou Donaldson 4144 Little Johnny C / Johnny Coles 4096 That's Where It's At / Stanley Turrentine 4165 Destination Out / Jackie McLean 1587 Back On The Scene / Bennie Green 4104 Buhaina's Delight / Art Blakey & The Jazz Mssengers 4170 Free For All / Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers 4323 Merry Ole Soul / Duke Pearson 1556 The Sounds Of Jimmy Smith Dec. 2003 1572 Bone & Bari / Curtis Fuller Vol.2 4257 Boss Horn / Blue Mitchell 4297 Schizophrenia / Wayne Shorter 4153 Evolution / Grachan Moncur III 4307 Time For Tyner / McCoy Tyner 4196 Blue Spirits / Freddie Hubbard 4239 Let 'Em Roll / "Big" John Patton 4334 Moon Rappin' / Brother Jack McDuff 1599 Soul Stirrin' / Bennie Green 4191 Wahoo / Duke Pearson Jan. 2004 4010 Walkin' & Talkin' / Bennie Green 4353 The Song Of Singing / Chick Corea 4178 The Thing To Do / Blue Mitchell 4128 Mo' Greens Please / Freddie Roach 4207 The Night Of The Cookers Vol.1 / Freddie Hubbard 4208 The Night Of The Cookers Vol.2 / Freddie Hubbard 4322 Down Home Style / Brother Jack McDuff 4259 Blackjack / Donald Byrd 4253 Street Of Dreams / Grant Green 4193 Indestructible / Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers Feb. 2003 1517 Patterns In Jazz / Gil Melle 4125 Good Gracious / Lou Donaldson 4218 Action / Jackie McLean 4290 Think / Ronnie Smith 4151 Black Fire / Andrew Hill 4160 Smoke Stack / Andrew Hill 4077 Doin' Allright / Dexter Gordon 4148 Two Souls In One / George Braith 4171 Extention / George Braith 4344 How Insensitive / Duke Pearson Mar. 2003 4176 One Flight Up / Dexter Gordon 4288 Reach Out! / Hank Mobley 4072 Feelin' Good / The Three Sounds 4313 Turning Point / Ronnie Smith 4113 Down To Earth / Freddie Roach 4245 Like Someone In Love / Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers 4161 Soul Stream / George Braith 4166 In 'N Out / Joe Henderson 1563 Jimmy Smith Plays Pretty Just For You 4275 Tender Moments / McCoy Tyner

Thanks, Moose, well said. I agree that on a national scale, not much is likely to change anytime soon, no matter what anyone does. (Sad, but probably true.) BUT, if you accept (even just a tiny bit) the mantra to "think globally, act locally" --- then I can't help but think that individuals can somhow make a real difference on a very localized level -- meaning even if they just create a tiny bit of synergy that starts to take on a tiny life of it's own - enough so that maybe a few people, or a few dozen people, or even (over time) a few hundred people start to change their perspective, even just a tiny bit. I'm not saying that this is gonna solve all kinds of problems on a grand scale. But, perhaps I'd just like to do something, if for no other reason that the pure selfishness of wanting to improve things a tiny bit in some tiny bubble in which I have some tiny influence. This reminds me of a similar, but different example (which will explain some of my motivation for starting this topic, and why I'm asking the questions I'm asking)... Shortly after I moved to Kansas City in 1994, I joined a weekly round-table discussion group, a "Men's Group". We did a little bit of the typical "Men's Movement" stuff, like drumming and such, but what I really liked was just having a bunch of guys to get together with and talk about stuff. Serious stuff, stupid stuff, pop-culture stuff, pretty much anything (reminds me of a jazz bulletin board, no?? ). Then, after about a year of that, I found the group to be a little bit lacking. Everyone in the group was male (obviously), and there were many times that I found myself longing for a similar round-table discussion group that had both men and women. Later, I found something kinda like that, in the church my wife and I started going to a few years ago. The '30-somethings' group at the church was men and women, and I found that having women in the group changed a lot of the discussion, as they often brought in different points of view that an all-male group might not think of. And so, I just realized that I feel the same thing about, well, about practically all my current social circles. That they somehow are lacking some perspectives and opinions, because everyone is White. It's just like my Men's Group, as great as it was. It was still lacking some valid perspectives and opinions, and having women around too might have diversified the pool of ideas. ( Also, the Men's Group that I was in was made up of all straight men, and as a result, I found that there were often quite a number of generalizations made about women, which were widely accepted and rarely challenged (or I was the only one challenging them). Whereas now, in the "male/female & straight/gay/lesbian" discussion group that I'm in now, it means these generalizations are rarely left unchallenged. ) So, then, the trick is, how to bring a few people of different races together?? Maybe to work together on some common 'community-action' or 'volunteer' project?? Maybe under the guise of some common interest, like a music appreciation group??? Just brainstorming some more...

I'm on the fence about Marvin Cabell as well, but occasionally I don't mind his severe intonation problems, or at least not as much as other times. (How's that for faint praise!!!!) But seriously... Do I wish almost any other sax player was on those dates?? Probably yes. Do the dates still have some merit?? Absolutely!!! They're great in other ways!!! And, truth be told, Marvin Cabell doesn't do any less for me than Don Wilkerson, although I do admit Wilkerson is a better player, technically. So I'm not saying Cabell is as good as Wilkerson, but rather that Cabell is at least as interesting (to me) as Wilkerson. Sometimes If I have my 'Ornette' ears screwed on tight, I can find few things in Cabell's playing.

LOL!!!

Or, rather, see this thread (link provided below) for where this question is asked and hopefully discussed.... Conversations with Jim Anderson, Ask the engineer!!! (page 6) Be sure to scroll down to the bottom of the page, and look for this question... But don't discuss it here, go to the other thread. Thanks!!

For those looking for Boogaloo, here's a link that'll do a generic search for "john patton boogaloo" on eBay. This link should work, now, or a month from now, or a year from now. eBay search for "john patton boogaloo" And, here's a similar search on half.com, that should also work anytime in the near future... half.com search for "john patton boogaloo" I'm doing this as a public service to those unfortunate souls who don't have Patton's "Boogaloo", which I voted for as my all-time-favorite Patton release. I love the others too (I've heard nearly all of them, expect a couple on the forthcoming Mosaic Select), but I always seem to come back to "Boogaloo" as my favorite. It maybe isn't the greasiest of his output, but (for me anyway), it's the deepest.