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There's nothing to adding polls, they're just as easy as adding new threads, almost. Just look for the "NEW POLL" button, right next to the "NEW TOPIC" button, after you get into a particular forum area (like "Artists", or "Audio Talk"). Then, when you hit the "NEW POLL" button, there will be two extra fields you normally don't see when you add just a new topic. They are: "Poll Question" and "Poll Choices". (Plus the usual "Topic Title", "Topic Description", and the area for the first post content.) The "Poll Question" can be pretty long, it seems. Not sure how long, but longer than the main topic title and subtitle. Then the "Poll Choices" works just like the screen instructions say... Poll Choices Please put one answer per line. [ Maximum 10 answers ] So you just type each poll response into the window, separating each poll choice item with a carriage return. MAKE SURE YOU GET THE POLL QUESTION AND POLL CHOICES RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, since there is no way to go back and edit them after you create the poll. Also, you CAN have pretty long poll choices, meaning they can run on and on across multiple lines - as long as you don't type a carriage return anywhere inside a line. And, warning, you CANNOT have any of the bold, itallic, underline, font, size, or color changes within the poll choices. Raw text only. Conn500 - just head over to the "Organissimo - Forum Discussion" forum right now, and create some bogus poll ("What's your favorite color??"), just to test it out.

I'll let you all in on a little secret. Every time you edit a post, and hit the submit button to make a change - the "total posts" counter gets bumped up. I'm a compulsive editor, so although I have 500+ posts credited to me in the official totals, I probably only have 200 actual posts, maybe 300 tops. But yeah, I do really like this place. All the stuff I like, and minimal BS, so the signal-to-noise-ratio is very good. PS: And some of my big posts I'll edit 5 or 10 times - like the ones I usually do to start new threads, or polls (my favorite!!).

You can do it, Pee Wee, you can do it!!!

Keep it. I didn't care for it at first either, but it grew on me over the years. And actually, I think now I like "On The Corner" better than parts of a some other of Miles' studio efforts in the 70's (no, not "Jack Johnson", which I love , but parts of some of the others (studio efforts) - which all blur together for me a bit). If it's any help, I never cared for "Bitches Brew" all that much at first, nor did I take to "On The Corner" at first either. I love 'em both now, but FYI, I connected with "On The Corner" first, before "Bitches Brew". Try listening to it in the car on a long trip, or at least when you're on the highway.

Sun Song (Ra's first full length LP if I'm not mistaken - from 1956) is really a stunner, now that I think of it.

Anybody have (or heard) the Saturn LP "On Jupiter" from 1979??? The one with the totally kick-ass disco-funk tune on it?? - the tune's called "U.F.O." (Really!! - it really is very funky, and more than a little bit "disco"-like.) One word: out-fucking-rageous ( "Disco Kid" is on this album too. )

I've got a ton of Sun Ra too, though much of it (all the vinyl anyway) I stumbled on almost by accident, or at least from a fortunate circumstance. About 15 years ago I was working on a big project back in College, about Sun Ra. It was going to be my Senior Honors Project, towards my degree in music. (Didn't turn out to happen, for various reasons. I did get the degree, just didn't do the project.) But, at the time I was trying to track down as much Sun Ra as I could, on LP, CD, tapes, whatever. I posted some info about my project on-line (back on "BITNET", if anybody remembers those days), and a guy wrote to me saying he had like 25 different Sun Ra LP's, mostly in excellent condition, most of which had never been on CD. About 8 of them were original Saturn LP's, including one from back in the late 50's, and one of the hard-to-find "Horo" double-LP's from Italy, recorded in about 1978 ("Other Voices, Other Blues"), which is an incredible quartet date with Ra, a drummer, Gilmore, and Michael Ray. He wasn't a Ra collector, but had gotten them when he bought some guys entire estate-sale record holdings, in order to get some other (more 'inside') dates. He had kept all the Ra albums together, for several years, rather than sell them off one by one. He knew he had something special, especially the Saturn LP's, most of which were in plain white jackets, several with original (hand-drawn) artwork. He wanted to sell them to one person who would be interested in them all. As a result, I probably have about 25 Ra CD's, and those same 25 or so LP's. Oh, the guy sold me all the Ra LP's for $100 (total!!), which I think included shipping - this was back in about 1992. (Hell, the Horo double-LP is worth about $50 just by itself now, at least to the right person - and it was hard to find back then too.) Funny, it's hard for me to pick just a few Ra albums as being my favorites. Much like Frank Zappa, there are tunes all over Ra's catalog that I love, but few albums that I love every single cut on. I really like 'em all, but the "very best of the best" is spread out all over. I'll think it over, and post some more thoughts here later...

The first time I was ever at their web-site was last night (which gave me the idea for this thread!), and I didn't see the "history" link then, until someone pointed it out here in this thread. (And a big "thanks!!" is in order for that.) I had a Fantasy (paper) catalog years ago, but haven't seen one in probably 4-5 years. Back then, I remember there being lots and lots of people who I really didn't know that well, among a few others who I really did know well (Miles, Monk, Trane, Evans, Mingus, the biggies...) For better or worse, much of what I know of jazz in the 50's and 60's is from being almost immersed in the Blue Note catalog (getting every title I could and can find), along with most of Miles post-Prestige output, and a smattering of other titles on other labels - lot's of Ornette, for instance. It's not that I've consciously avoided other labels (and I certainly do have a lot of non-BN recordings if you look at everything I own recorded after 1970. But probably 50% of all my CD's of recordings from the 60's are Blue Notes, maybe closer to 60% perhaps. Time to play catch-up!!

This is a general Sun Ra thread, that I'm starting after listening to Ra's "Lanquidity" from 1978, just this morning. What a goovin', soulful, kinda 'out there' but not really that far 'out there' kinda album!!! I love Michael Ray's contribution (on trumpet), as he's always one of the highlights of any Sun Ra album he's on. Interestingly, Eddie Gale is on this one too - and I'm not sure who takes which solos, but I may have to listen more closely again (soon), and see if I can figure it out. Anybody know who the guitarist "Disco Kid" was??? (He's credited on two or three Ra albums, besides this one.) To me, "Lanquidity" has an almost "STRATA-EAST"-ish kind of vibe to it, which I mentioned in another thread. If you don't own very many Sun Ra albums/CD's, can you say which ones you do own??? I'm interested in knowing what Ra titles people have, since there are so many in his vast catalog, and quite a surprising number have been released on CD too. More generally speaking, the Sun Ra I love best is the 'middle ground', where he didn't go all out into the stratosphere. Sometimes I describe it like this: When they sound "like a high-school marching band on a collective acid trip!!!". (I love that description, and I've been using it for at least 10 years.) The "really out-there" Sun Ra output is interesting to me, sure, but not my favorite Sun Ra. I like Ra's really "inside" work too (or at least as "inside" as he ever got - for instance, is solo-piano work), but, it's the tunes and albums where he still had lots of real tunes (of his) that I love so much. The ones with firery soloing, but where things didn't get totally out of control, and when they didn't become all-out percussion love-fests. What are your favorite Sun Ra albums???

Which one of these labels (if any) had the most post-1960 "progressive" albums??? I'm really into Andrew Hill, Charles Tolliver, Larry Young, Sam Rivers (on BN), Woody Shaw, Sun Ra's more "inside" stuff, Ornette's Atlantic work, Tyrone Washington, you get the idea. But also Carmell Jones, Gerald Wilson, Blue Mitchel's BN work, Donald Byrd's pre-1971 BN work. And of course, Herbie, Wayne, Miles, all the usual suspects there - for more late 60's stuff. So, then, what's on these labels that I might like, that I've probably overlooked all these years???

Update: Well, I'm most of the way through "Grass Roots" (finally!!) - and I'll go on record as saying the most unexpectedly good thing about these sessions (among lots of good things!) is the presence of Jimmy Ponder on guitar on the earlier session (the one with Woody Shaw). Ponder adds a 'tartness' that really gives that date an added depth and authenticity, given Hill's somewhat suprising foray into 'soul jazz'. Looking forward to the discussion!!!

Has anybody here actually taken the undergound tour?? I've read mixed reviews of it in two different guidebooks. Not "bad" reviews, but definitely "mixed".

SOAP!!!

I seem to recall that in the last season or so of "Kotter", Gabe Kaplan had actually left the show. So there was this show called "Welcome Back Kotter" that had no Kotter... That might have been it. I remember the setting not being in the school nearly as much, and more focus on the wife, and now that you mention it - less Kotter. Man, my wife got me hooked on American Idol last season, and now I'm just as hooked as she is with the 2nd season. Go Ruben!!!

Great suggestions everybody!! Thanks again!!!

Time to start registering as a dozen other 'phantom' board members, and stuff the ballot box!!! ( Just kidding!!!! )

Wasn't there a very short (and painfully unsuccessful) spin-off to "Welcome Back Kotter"??? Something like "Kotter's Back Again", something that wasn't set in the classroom??? Or am I imagining things again... Or maybe it was some other sit-com staring that same main guy from Kotter???

Thanks AB!! First I've gotta get "Lift Every Voice" out of my CD player (it's 'stuck', so I 'had' to listen to it 4 times this week!! ), and finally get to "Grass Roots".

By the way, I'm gonna set Peter up with a burn of the bonus tracks. Pete - it might take a week or so for me to get to it, but I'll see that you get these...

Man, I love this board. How many other jazz boards would have voted this much for Andew Hill and Larry Young?? - (and really 'progressive' Larry Young at that!!). I'm not saying there's any kind of bias for these more progressive players (here on the Organissimo board), but I do think we embrace these 'very progressive' but not quite 'avant garde' players more than most on the other jazz boards. Guess that's why I like it here so much!!

I listened to all the samples at bn.com, and went with the Ornette. (Probably won't matter in the end, since he's down in the polls.) Maybe "New York Is Now" and "Love Call" would be good to do sometime as an AOTW. (And really, there'd be plenty of justification for doing both a the same time.)

Another couple that I just thought of... Eddie Henderson Bennie Maupin And also (as was said above), I think Larry Young might have been a really interesting choice. I'm not aware of any organ players on STRATA-EAST, but that could have been a really interesting direction for the label. Oh man, what about John Patton!!! B)

Double Thread Don't post any more to this one, go here for the other one.... http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...f=19&t=1013&hl=

Anyone else think there's something weird about "The Creeper" from 1967?? It's got... Pepper Adams - Sax (Baritone), Brass Sonny Red - Sax (Alto) Miroslav Vitous - Bass Donald Byrd - Trumpet Chick Corea - Piano Mickey Roker - Drums I've only heard this one a few times (when I borrowed a friend's Byrd/Adams Mosaic), but I remember not being able to get my ears around it completely. I liked it, but there was also something strange about it that I couldn't quite figure out. Maybe if I heard it again, and more often. ( I plan to get the Byrd/Adams Mosaic someday, when I have the money to do it. )

I've gotta admit that for most of my 15 or so years of being interested in jazz (since I was in College back in the late 80's), that I've sorta mentally "blurred" (and often confused) all these labels, since they're all under the "OJC/Fantasy" umbrella. Help me sort them out, so I can begin to give each of them some of their own identities in my own mind, and perhaps more so in yours too... Here's what little I know about each... "Fantasy" - don't even know if this label (as a jazz label) has it's own identity, or it it's just the umbrella for everything else?? "Prestige" - What Miles and Trane (and probably lots of others) recorded on in the early and mid 50's. "Galaxy" - no idea. "Milestone" - What Joe Henderson was on in the very late 60's and early-to-mid 70's. "Riverside" - There's a bunch of Bill Evans on Riverside, I think in the late 50's??? "Debut" - no idea. "Contemporary" - seems to be mostly hard bop stuff in the 60's, maybe similar to Pacific Jazz?? "Jazzland" - no idea. "Pablo" - I should remember this, but I don't. Aren't there a bunch of Monk recordings on Pablo?? Obviously I need help... Thanks!!