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Hm, I was never hooked by the Antibes material in a way I was by the 1964 concert ... might be my listener's biography getting in the way here.

Thought I read that all the young guys complained since they weren't rich in any way and Miles hadn't told them beforehand. Would make sense, but what do I know ... anyway, no matter what the circumstances, the music played that night is magic - and indeed it was the first Coleman I ever heard, and I'm pretty sure it remains the best.

That settles the voodoo part, I guess. Amazing what crap some folks consider to be hip ... MD the god of speed-metal-trash-jazz ... too bad he did go electric (Judas?) and that the mix didn't strive to include bearded-soft-folk or else Miles could be reinvented as the uber-deity of today's vegan-urban hipsters.

I discovered the solo album mentioned in post #2 some time before his death .... it's very, very good!

same here

Same here ... still not sure about the Hackett. Nor about the Johnny Mercer ... any endorsements regarding that one?

Interesting point, Allen! I can relate regarding Jones, but not with Flanagan ... mid-fifties, if you count "Saxophone Colossus", I guess what you mean would already have vanished? Not sure what's the earliest Flanagan I've heard, what would be around in terms of early sideman recordings?

Yeah, the self-titled one is a real beauty ... opens with Flanagan's tune "Beyond the Bluebird" Not quite sure where I really heard Flanagan first ... "Saxophone Colussus" or "The Cats" - probably the later, where he has a wonderful piano feature on "How Long Has This Been Goin' On?". "Eclypso", "Giant Steps", "Sea Changes" and "Sunset and the Mockingbird" are among my favorites, speaking of leader albums, in terms of collaborations, there's "Our Delight", and then there's the duo album with J.R. Monterose, "A Little Pleasure". I should really get the recently released one with Jaki Byrd!

sad news, r.i.p.

Okay, what next? Han Bennink don't schwing? Gerry Hemingway is an amazing musician and great drummer, of course ... and yeah, I guess I can subscribe Chuck's argument on Hamid Drake - seen him live a couple of times, lotsa good vibes and all, but ultimately he's doing his schtick in a very competent and fun way, and if the mood is right, it can indeed bring you places (he's really a reggae drummer, I guess ... not a genuine observation of mine btw, but a thought that had crossed my mind before I heard a much more competent Chicago mouth utter it). But I wonder, where would Jack DeJohnette fit in? And Chick when he swapped places with Jack D? And is there a ghost track with Baby Dodds, Persip, Hemingway and Drake battling it out on the fourth disc of this upcoming set? And is there audio commentary by Moms to be added at will?

Yes indeed, great album!

the Marsh only stuff on about two thirds of disc three and all of disc four

nude piano pounding? hey, don't blame me, you asked for it!

Very insteresting little movie, thanks! And sorry about the loss, must be tough.

I don't know if Atlanta or London did this kind of "history lesson" opening though? If they had and were flawed in a likewise fashion and if I'd been around, rest assured I'd have been of the very same opinion! Not that I really care, I've little interest in all the money-making crap surrounding these huge international sports events ... even less so since they seem to rely more and more on corrupt regimes. After all, it should be about sport, shouldn't it?

been doing just that all day today ! and I thought it was directed at me because of a remark I made - not naming Armstrong but a few others - in another thread were we had the same derailment going on ... but then maybe I have to accept that thread about japanese reissues often just aren't about the music per se but about the sound and presentation of it ... anyway, in the end it's all good

btw: John Ogdon - The Complete RCA Album Collection (RCA, 6CD) pre-order on amazon.de is 27 € - just bought the Hammerklavier disc (it adds some of the Nielsen) and might take a pass here, but still, might be interesting (I'm not familiar even by name with much of it) - link: http://www.amazon.de/John-Ogdon--Complete-Album-Collection/dp/B00I4L172C/ Henri Dutilleux Edition (DG, 6 CD) already out in France (43 €): http://www.amazon.fr/Henri-Dutilleux-Edition-Limited/dp/B00HHYVZLU/ can't find anything on the DG site ... at that price, it's not a real bargain I guess, but should come with some good booklet? Herbert Blomstedt - San Francisco Years (Decca, 15 CD) pre-order is 42 € with amazon.de - no cover yet http://www.amazon.de/Blomstedt-San-Francisco-Years-Ltd-Edt/dp/B00HZ8J4TS/ Great Symphonies - David Zinman/Tonhalle Orchester Zürich (The Zurich Years 1995-2014) (RCA, 50 CD) pre-order is 93 € at amazon.de - prob. too much of a good thing, but I'm enjoying the Beethoven http://www.amazon.de/Great-Symphonies-Ludwig-van-Beethoven/dp/B00I0IL3FA/

I guess the Richter would really be too much ... I'll rather add his DG set to my collection, eventually - been eyeing that one for a while.

Glad I was not involved this time But ... ... with the second point there directed at me, I just want to add my 2c, namely that to me audiophilism and the on-going obsession about a few "classics" probably looks at least as elitist ... guess we're just into different things in the end. I mean it's not that I don't enjoy when something sounds good. I'm sorry if I appear elitist (though frankly I don't think I've ever been told I was, neither here nor in any other music discussion on- or offline ... well yeah, my little sis who preferred Ace of Base and stuff like that thought I was very elitist ), but my main driver is an on-going enthusiasm for the music and those that make it (meaning musicians more often than record producers, sound engineers et al, though obviously they're part of it as well), and I hope I will not ever lose that! Now, granted, not everybody wants to get acquainted with the sounds of Luis Russell or Evan Parker ... but to me it's kind of a necissity to find out ... like: where did that stuff come from? How did drummers sound before Klook and Max? Why does no one tell me about a great m-f like Dave Tough? Is Han Bennink a genius? How does Hamid Drake come accross live? There are thousands of things I want to learn and know, and I just can't be bothered to obsess about the sonic qualities of each and every record I buy (many are just around in one edition anyway, which makes life a bit easier, of course). So, most often (hey, I get grumpy every now and then, who doesn't?), no offense is intended at all, and I apologize for any offense taken from words of mine. But I'm definitely not out to appear elitist or any such crap, no sir.

disc one ... probably going on into the night ... love "Mademoiselle Mabry"!

Seems Amsterdam's Concertgebouw does present contemporary music with regularity and success. 2000 persons every saturday afternoon ... not sure if the Dutch are all masochists or what, but some premises here are definitely proven wrong. German article from a few days back on this, just in case: http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/buehne-und-konzert/neue-musik-in-amsterdam-das-glueck-ist-mit-den-furchtlosen-12785242.html

discs 4-6

I'm quite hopeful. The Brown, Jarrett and Parker boxes each had cheapo facsimiles of the original books (as far as I could tell). Mine was dispatched today so I'll report back when it arrives. The new Basie set (Decca) has the booklet too - says so on the site of Universal Italy. So yes, I'd be hopeful, too.

If I'm allowed to intrude for a sec, I've got two Weinberg discs so far and enjoy both (without pretending to find them "great" or whatever):

No denying that! And it seems those who know think the stadiums, racetracks and all are great ... but still, it all raises so many questions, I just can't totally shut up.