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I was watching TCM the other week and caught part of this .... Sammy is onstage as a trumpeter in the 50s playing jazz of that era and in audience was Louis Armstrong... not sure if he was playing himself or not... only caught the last 15 minutes of this. Have I got this right and is this supposed to be a good movie.... I was shocked to have never even heard of it.

Just picked this up today and can confirm that it sounds significantly better than the Atlantic Original Sound digipak version from 1998 (not sure if this is the version you're referring to), which i found to be annoyingly hot and harsh. Actually pretty stoked with this; ummed and ahhed in the store but i guess i gambled and won on this one. I'm not usually one for re-buying stuff that i already have for the sake of better sound but i'm starting to see the positive side of it. thanks and what is the catalogue number of the version you purchased? That's the one! thanks guys!!

Just picked this up today and can confirm that it sounds significantly better than the Atlantic Original Sound digipak version from 1998 (not sure if this is the version you're referring to), which i found to be annoyingly hot and harsh. Actually pretty stoked with this; ummed and ahhed in the store but i guess i gambled and won on this one. I'm not usually one for re-buying stuff that i already have for the sake of better sound but i'm starting to see the positive side of it. Just picked this up today and can confirm that it sounds significantly better than the Atlantic Original Sound digipak version from 1998 (not sure if this is the version you're referring to), which i found to be annoyingly hot and harsh. Actually pretty stoked with this; ummed and ahhed in the store but i guess i gambled and won on this one. I'm not usually one for re-buying stuff that i already have for the sake of better sound but i'm starting to see the positive side of it. thanks and what is the catalogue number of the version you purchased?

One of my favorite both as a musician and composer....listened to East Coasting this week.... love that one.

the other thing I find odd is that nowhere in the liner notes does Cuscuna discuss the music played on the four discs in the set....unless I missed it... a lot about the sixties ....about personalities etc...but nothing about these sets

I have finally listed to all four discs and have to say I like this better than I was expecting. There are certainly some very fine moments on every disc and the Jarrett/Corea interactions seem to be what is unique about this set. I think it is good to have the unedited versions.... but not sure I needed all four nights. I need to listen to it again sometime soon... so these are just initial reactions. Given the huge excitement about this set before its release....I would have to say that the response on this Board appears to be a muted with the exception of a few very enthusiastic posters.

One of my favorite authors...sadly .... he will be missed.

thanks guys for all of your good ideas!

Those of you that use those Caselogic and other brand notebook style binders to hold cds and DVDs.... what do you do with jewel boxes and DVD cases. I hate to toss these out. Any of you found a good way to recycle?

I am a big fan... my two favorites are Music of Another Present Era and DIstant Hills....with a prefence for DIstant Hills since they stretch out a bit more with the solos.

I got my copy yesterday and listened to Disc 1. Liked the performances and sound on the main tracks, but like others here have said I do not get the bonus tracks ---- whatever magic there is in bonus track performances is very much obscured by the poor sound quality.

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I assumed you were reading the thread about Crouch's Parker book and how he called Bill Evans a "punk"... stupid of me to assume it.

mjzee Hope you weren't offended by my attempt at humor above...guess I got hooked in the punk term from the Crouch discussion. I enjoyed the article. Thanks.

Now Crouch is going off on McLaughlin???? I guess all white jazz players are punks?

I don't think that anyone said that Hill played "composer's piano". That's a figment of your imagination. Leeway did say: "In similar vein, I find Hill's piano playing composer-ly (in the service of the composition), rather than virtuosic (in the service of the musician). Hill was a fine pianist, but the pianism was inextricably bound up with his composing." To me, that sounds a lot like Ellington. I don't think that anyone would say that Duke Ellington played "composer's piano". You're right, I misunderstood Leeway's argument(s). Apologies! I took Guy's point to be that one way to evaluate Andrew Hill's piano playing is to listen to his performances where he is the sideman and not the composer and I like Guy's example of Teeter Totter not just the fabulous intro but his solo on this track, I do think that Andrew's work as a soloist on such players as Joe Henderson's albums show his piano playing to stand on its own outside of the context of his compositions. +1 This is one of the reasons that I enjoy this album so much. The personalities of the soloists are so different but complementary. KD here is a perfect foil for Dolphy and just as memorable. I love how throaty his tone gets when playing lower notes. Dolphy's solo on Dedication is a definite highlight of the album though for me. One thing I've noticed though is that the ensemble playing is a little unrehearsed. For example the slight confusion (I think it's KD that fluffs his line) when they begin to play the head at the end of New Monastery or Joe Henderson's premature interjection during Richard Davis' solo on Refuge. Also I'm sure there are minor differences in the "out head" than they play on the "in" (I think I may have just made up those terms so hopefully you know what I mean!). me too.....that Dolphy solo on Dedication I think I can play that one in my head.

you left out Dale Evans and thanks for your explanation

And wtf does Crouch mean by calling Evans a "punk"?

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I forgot to say that I saw a wonderful duet concert with Andrew Hill and Bobby Hutcherson at Lincoln Center in the 2000s something.... fabulous.

Actually I love Andrew's piano playing and I for me it is more than just service to the composition It is certainly not virtuosic in something like a Bud Powell (for example) style...he does not spin out fast runs of notes... his solos often sound to me spare and extremely elliptical with reference to the beat... but his solos to me are riveting.... looked forward to by me... and they I don't know have some sort of inner logic. To the uninitiated I (which I am sure is not you Leeway) and even to some people who like jazz I have even heard the comment "that guy can't play" when listening to Hill solo.... I just disagree.

I saw Andrew in what I think was his last live performance at Trinity Church near Wall Street. He did a live solo performance... he looked not particularly healthy... but the performance was good. My closest personal encounter with Andrew came some years before that when I came upon him at the J&R cd shop. He was attempting to pry a Village Voice from a bundle of them tied with some sort of binding. He was really working it and I became afraid that he was literally damaging his fingers. I cringed and said something like "Mr. Hill....please do not injure those fingers.... and let me cut that binding for you" which I did with one of those little knives you have on a keychain. He smiled at me, grabbed his Villlage Voice copy and said "thank you" .... such an unassuming, humble man. I was too dumbstruck to say anything else.

I agree that Dolphy "dominates" this session as an instrumentalist. I view that as a point in its favor; Dolphy on a good day is one of the most glorious things in jazz, and here we have "Dolphy on a good day" complemented by an array of 5 other great musicians and 5 fantastic compositions. On this point, I disagree with you guys. I listened again last night, and I think POD is a great example of what in the film world is referred to as an "ensemble cast" with each player making significant contributions and no single player dominating the performance. Henderson and Dorham are great and Tony Williams and Richard Davis provide the supportive underpinning as well as taking a few great solos too. But obviously what really elevates POD beyond the typical Blue Note session is the unique playing style and compositions of Andrew himself.

One thing that often strikes me about this date is that the track "Dedication" is a gorgeus ballad....something that does not often get mentioned about POD.