imho, The two lps with Airto, Flora, Joe were great. After that ...well, it was chops city, if that's what you dug, but it didn't float my boat. I saw them live several times during both periods. I have mixed feelings about Chick. He's obviously a gifted player, but sometimes he plays so much bullshit, gets so "cute", plays so many games with the drummer (who has to react - after all, Chick is the leader) that I just get fed up.