Niko

found this here in the library of congress copyright database... "gladys mundy" says something... what the aka means etc i don't quite get... (W) means words i guess... new theory, carpenter talked mundy out of his contribution to the compositions but couldn't get the part of mundy's wife (who btw under her two names has rather many compositions in the database)

Is the inference here that, at some point in his life, Jimmy Mundy fell victim to narcotics addiction? Because I just came across a truly dreadful Sonny Stitt album produced by Carpenter, with three of "his" originals, and the whole thing was arranged by Jimmy Mundy. Just wondering... don't know which book that was (maybe also gavin's) but somewhere it said that during the chet baker/george coleman sessions jimmy mundy was sitting in some booth handling the compositions/arrangements (there are 16 carpenter compositions in the set, some of which cowritten with "bruce" which arguably is singer gladys bruce who had recorded with mundy in 1951 http://www.jazzdiscography.com/Leaders/BruceGladys-ldr.php some cowritten with stitt... no idea which role who played in all that mess and how much mundy contributed... or why tadd dameron apparently managed to remain the composer of his tunes... here's another album with mundy arrangements and bruce compositions... but no obvious traces of carpenter http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&a...10:hxfuxqlgldke ) i like that stitt and the top brass album... the organ wasn't a good idea though in this case... and it's one of tadd dameron's last works...

There's a slew of, for instance, Coleman Hawkins records of which this could also be said. Still, there's a story being told, or more accurately, finished, and I'd not be without them. I guess. Which Bean records, anyway? Torwards the end no doubt. Why do some greats burn out and others last to advanced age? They´re all just as talented and thereby high-strung so the ´intense genius burnout´ thing won´t wash by me. Any theories? (Ha, I guess I should ask how often bears shit in the woods....) not an entire theory... but i'd throw in the claim that guys like sonny stitt and art pepper who were to a (maybe overly large) extent driven by competing with other saxophone players, "sportive guys", had a longer peak than many others who were maybe driven more strongly by trying to, say, express themselves, settle something with themselves... )

happy birthday

thanks! if he was called sonny salad already at 11 that makes it unlikely he was the same as sonny saldana but who knows... another mention of him with sinatra in the second article i linked to... born in 1926, just like john coltrane...

Managed to play the Earl Anderza, but not the Little/Ervin. Any suggestions for a snappier album title based on their shared first name? hmmm, i have the vague feeling that at present in the test version at www-v3.deezer.com they don't do country restricitions yet (more accurately, everyone has the french settings which means emi, most of universal, sony and warner plus small stuff like nato for instance...)... funny you couldn't play the ervin/little... maybe it was a bug they still got to fix...

trying to understand the new deezer version... can anyone in the US or in the UK play this http://www-v3.deezer.com/de/#music/result/all/earl%20anderza and/or this (track one seems to be broken, so track 2, 3,...) http://www-v3.deezer.com/de/#music/booker-...ner-city-205116 if you feel like trying out, thanks (two great albums of course)

vaguely related to on the road plus i'm just reading it though it's not a book... look at this July 1965 village voice and say once more that jazz is still as alive as it was then... http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=i2wQA...azz+ray+bremser Half Note: Zoot Sims and Al Cohen with extra added attraction jimmy rushing Village Gate: Thelonious Monk and John Colrane (not together, i guess?) Slugs: Hank Mobley, then Pepper Adams/Thad Jones Harout's Restaurant: Jackie McLean All Star Quintet Village Vanguard: Mose Allison and Sheila Jordan, and on tuesday Sonny Rollins two pages later in the classifieds there is steve kuhn offering ear training...

damn, iiirc (might be wrong) two hours ago she was on 32... now it's 36... we shouldn't take this lightly (how long is it running?) edit to add: running for 42 more days, at present she's 1000 votes behind...

just wanted to post that; sometimes it's so easy to do something worthwile...

i used to play in an orchestra that was somewhat specialized on this type of music, two pieces i remember were organ concerts by alexandre guilmant and joseph callaerts (doubt the latter one is on cd, think we were the first ones to play it in almost 100 years)... wasn't ready for them at the time (we even travelled to belgium to peform them at the original place - wasn't ready for belgium either) pretty sure i would love them now....

ok, noone on this list who's overly well-known Sonny Carrington, 1, 1981, ts Kari "Sonny" Heinila, 27, 1985-2004, ts,sop,fl,reeds,saxes,cond,kaval,selje-fl,ney Sonny McBroom, 14, 1978-1998, woodwinds,saxes,ts Sonny Saldana, 3, 1941-1942, reeds Sonny Thorp, 3, 1936, cl,as. Sonny Fredericks, 4, 1937-1941, ts Sonny Gill, 2, 1942, sax,vcl but - sonny saldana might well be sonny salad under his original name... (and a spanish one i guess, not italian)

cox, criss, red, rollins, simmons, stitt, salad, and? Fortune? ah... but there got to be more!

cox, criss, red, rollins, simmons, stitt, salad, and?

These look really nice, and would (will) suit me fine. Thanks for bringing them up. Hi Paps, Shortly after this post a year ago, I found a Japanese King pressing of both the trio and quintet together on 1 LP. It sounds amazing. I'd stopped looking for the Riker's album, and I haven't been buying in a while, but I'll seek that one out again. -Jay I have the Riker's Island album on cd and although I haven't listened to it in a long time, I don't remember it being all that great, IMHO. It seemed a bit too sloppy or something, maybe it's time to refresh the ole memory. one thing one might find a bit annoying is that the size of the bands are varied from tune to tune; two different singers on one song each (earl coleman is fine but a bit special, the other guy i could never listen to for the whole tune), trio, quartet, sextet... i really like the compositions, also something about the trumpeter and the alto player, they seemed a bit like strangers, somewhat restricted, don't know, but in a good way... and philly joe jones, hope and john gilmore a great, too (actually in my last post i forgot my favorite elmo hope session which is the sextet part of homecoming (with blue mitchell, frank foster and jimmy heath iirc)

interesting to see gene orloff in there, he had this real impressive career later on http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&a...g9fpxqlgld0e~T4 (and iirc some on some of these are lps i actually found the string sections real good like yusef lateef's detroit or with roland kirk...) CHARLIE PARKER with NEAL HEFTI'S ORCHESTRA Recording session, 'Carnegie Hall Recorders', NYC, Manday/Tuesday, December 1 & 2, 1947. CR: MERCURY RECORDS. Doug Mettome,Al Porcino,Ray Wetzel(tp); Bill Harris(tb); Bart Varsalona(b-tb); Vinnie Jacobs(frh); John LaPorta(cl); Charlie Parker,Sonny Salad,Murray Williams(as); Pete Mondello,Flip Phillips(ts); Manny Albam(bs); Gene Orloff(vln, concertmaster); Sam Caplan,Manny Fiddler, Sid Harris,Harry Katzman,Zelly Smirnoff(vln); Nat Nathanson,Fred Ruzilla(viola); Joe Benaventi(cello); Tony Aless(p); Curly Russell(b); Diego Iborra(perc); Shelly Manne(ds); Neal Hefti(arr,cond).

didn't leave many traces..., sounds like a corruption, salvatore salato... http://books.google.com/books?id=evUDAAAAM...ad%22&hl=de http://books.google.com/books?id=kSIEAAAAM...ad%22&hl=de http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=11945

http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=48133 three lists in posts 1, 30 and 117...

found a new toy ( http://news.google.com/newspapers most stuff is subscription only but not all) and it got me this 1964 tony fruscella article (bob reisner, village voice) http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=6m8QA...=tony+fruscella also check out the concert ads in the lower left corner... those were the days

Why don't you contact Barbara Washington Franklin - if she's still alive, that is? Upon discovering her book earlier today (and the Tyrone reference), that thought had crossed my mind. three weeks ago she still gave a talk on "becoming a woman of influence", so i guess chances are pretty good... http://bridgewaywomen.com/yahoo_site_admin...ts.81171401.pdf on the book's final pages there's a phone number, email address... and a little bit about her family background... (btw, tyrone washington being the anticipated answer to a question in class seems rather unlikely... ) her late husband http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2004Aug26.html to collect this before it gets lost: barbara was tyrone's older sister, born in blakely georgia; at age six she already lived in newark; their mother was eunice vetta ross washington...

welcome! since the khan offer is four years old i guess you should drop rooster_ties a pm to increase chances he becomes aware of your question...

These look really nice, and would (will) suit me fine. Thanks for bringing them up. Hi Paps, Shortly after this post a year ago, I found a Japanese King pressing of both the trio and quintet together on 1 LP. It sounds amazing. I'd stopped looking for the Riker's album, and I haven't been buying in a while, but I'll seek that one out again. -Jay imho, hope got much "better" while he was in california... (much more lyrical, interesting, as if he had put so much tadd dameron in his music that he wasn't really a straight bud powell disciple anymore...) strongly recommend harold land's "the fox" and riker's island...

just a guess with nothing much behind: tal farlow?

On the Road should be read with the right sort of music in the background. Suggestions? back when i bought my first kerouac book (subterraneans) i actually bought a cd to listen to while reading; wanted to have some "hard bebop" (not hard bop) and i still think that's a good idea... with my limited knowledge i bought an art blakey compilation, still one of my first 15 cds or so, which was not exactly was i wanted but close enough (compact jazz art blakey, started with the session with gigi gryce/joe gordon which was most suitable...); today i would probably recommend some sonny stitt (together again with gene ammons, john houston...) or maybe "smack up" by art pepper.... an alternative would of course be something by "white beatniks" (guess one could discuss the appropriateness of that term for hours) tony fruscella, zoot sims with jerry lloyd, brew moore... agree with chuck... it's only 12 years ago for me and i still know quite a bit by heart (mostly subterraneans) but i wouldn't want to go there again (and i must admit, political correctness does concern me, concerned me even then but not that much; people in books doing drugs is fine with me but proud tales of sex tourism aren't) read one flew over the cuckoo's nest at about the same time and it didn't do anything for me btw