Dan Gould

Kelley's CV isn't exactly filled with scholarly tomes about jazz or jazz musicians outside of the Monk book, as far as I know. It is filled with radical Marxist and other beliefs/assertions highly typical of today's "higher" education. It's a minor miracle that his regular work didn't overwhelm the deep scholarship of the Monk book.

Seriously, Larry? You skipped an important bit: Dean Baker and Mark Weisbrot Social Security: The Phony Crisis ©1999, 200 pages Cloth $27.00 ISBN: 978-0-226-03544-4 Paper $12.00 ISBN: 978-0-226-03546-8 You use something from the last fucking millenium to pretend that all is still fine? That's the kind of shit that really ought to be kept out of this thread.

What exactly is the "shit"? I've provided links and pull quotes to the original source material. The piece is accurate. Or was it the Trump quote at the end of the piece that brought politics into it? The fact of Social Security facing a point of insolvency - inability to pay full benefits by law in less than a decade - should not be controversial as "News of The Day" regardless of what outlet is reporting it.

SS has always been a pay-as-you-go system. What you or I put in is immaterial to the solvency. SS collected more than needed from a broader base of workers -in the past. This made it "over funded" but since the revenue always went into general expenditures, it was never 'set aside' in any real sense. The over-collection time is rapidly coming to an end - ten years away right now, when, yes the Social Security Trust fund (which was filled with T-Bills, not actual money) is running out and will be ... what's the word? Bankrupt in 2033. Would there be less objection to the source if they had said "empty" instead? At that point, there will be a nearly 25% reduction in benefits across the board. But apparently for many on this site, dismissing the messenger is easier than dealing with the fundamental accuracy of the message. (And by the way, I am not sure if this analysis takes into consideration any intervening recession, wherein we can predict that inflows will decline as employment declines, and outflows will increase as inevitably some close-to-retirement people will choose to file for benefits earlier than planned, if their employment situation dictates it.)

Original source: https://www.cbo.gov/publication/58564 In CBO’s projections, spending on Social Security exceeds revenues to the program in 2022 and increases relative to GDP over the next 75 years, while revenues remain stable. If combined, the program’s trust funds would be exhausted in 2033. CBO projects that if Social Security outlays were limited to what is payable from annual revenues after the trust funds’ exhaustion in 2033, Social Security benefits would be about 23 percent smaller than scheduled benefits in 2034. They would be 35 percent smaller by 2096, and the gap would remain stable thereafter.

Thanks Mike, will be interested to see your reaction to the reveal ...

Not sure if you mean Chicago musicians, or musicians passing thru or which. I don't think Al Grey was living there, nor LD and they recorded quite a few times. I think their approach was simply what was popular or thought popular enough to have a shot at decent sales. They were happy to nab people like LD when he wasn't contractually obligated to BN because he was, I am sure, a consistent and predictable seller. Check out how they promoted the first hit record by the Jazztet - I shared this on a FB page that is private - Rare Jazz Photos.

Al Grey, with Billy Mitchell! Sam Lazar! LD (sometimes with Grant!)!! https://www.bsnpubs.com/chess/argo600.html the rest of the discography is available elsewhere on the site.

I seem to recall that early use of his voice messed it up but not that it was specifically related to yelling at a record company exec. I have to say that this has got to be the longest period of time between first post and a response - Bravo.

Just got permission from Ted Panken to use a quote from an interview he did with Charles Earland as a Remembrance on the site: When I was coming up as a kid, Bill Doggett was someone I definitely admired. I loved his group. I loved him and I loved to hear that saxophone of Percy France. Oh, man, those were the good days, especially when I lived in Atlantic City, and these cats used to come to town. Oh, they used to just knock my socks off. I loved Bill Davis and Bill Doggett. You know what I liked about these guys the most? They could groove! Man, when I would come down Kentucky Avenue in Atlantic City, I could hear them organs screaming all the way at the end of the block. As soon as you hit that block on Kentucky Avenue, you’d go into your bop walk! You’d start to struttin’ with the groove, man, because you could feel the pulse all the way a block away.

I'll second Chuck's nomination of "The Rake" from Star Bright and also add the title track from Blue Train.

Thanks for joining in Mike. #1 is not "very recent" at least as I'd define the term. Pre-1995 and all live in the studio by real people. Jim Sangrey got the three (for me) principal musicians.

awesome!

I bet you found at a good price ... at least on discogs they all seemed $5 or less.

Thanks Thom, your comments are always appreciated! First off very good on the Robert Stewart ID, I considered him the most obscure person so getting him correctly ... very good, even though its not from any of the recordings you mentioned. It is fascinating when two musicians have different reactions to the same track - number 11 didn't work much for you while I (think) Sangrey liked it best. Gene Harris not on the Ernie Andrews/Teddy Edwards recording though I can understand going from Ernie to Gene based on their 90s connection on some Phillip Morris SuperBand recordings. Regarding Scott Hamilton, I think some of his best work and most satisfying recordings are with top-flite pianists: Wig: Race Point and/or Radio City Tommy Flanagan: After Hours Gene Harris: At Last Norman Simmons: My Romance

Individual hints aren't very obvious to me but Sangrey did get the theme, which he called "intergenerational" - on every track there is at least one "young lion" type matched with at least one from an older generation. Maybe that can help a little. Specifically, track 2 was ID'd as a band with Alvin Queen, Jesse Davis, Peter Bernstein and Mike LeDonne, and I let slip that the tune is a Don Patterson composition ... should add up to an answer for those who sleuth. Similarly for #4 that can be figured out too. I will say that Track 11 is the one with the second appearance by one musician.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Al and I am pleased to report that you do not need to go away for another ten years - no Freddie Hubbard here. (And not Joe Williams either though I definitely hear the similarities.)

Well done on both! #2 and #4 are ID'd if not with perfect specificity.

I accompanied my wife to the first three of the epic Tolkien film adaptations and all I can say about that is that I'd have been even more aggravated had their run times been extended by intermissions. In all seriousness I thought back and came up with The Sting as a picture from my childhood that had an intermission but now I am not sure, since Wiki tells me that the run time was only 129 minutes. Did 2001 have one?

Glad you did!

What the hell would you possibly mean by "frail"? Teddy was one of the toughest tenor sounds right from the start.

Sorry not feeling most of his analysis. 1. What were the record companies supposed to do thru R&D of this "70 year old technology"? The whole point was that it was 70 year old technology that some people had started to think wasn't so bad after all. What were they going to do, reinvent the CD? 2. Owning factories - excuse me but did record companies ever own their own pressing plants? For vinyl or for CDs??? 3. 50% don't own a fucking record player. They are lucky to get money out of them period. 4. Anyone notice that he speaks of back catalogs as this great source of revenue and having no artist or production costs, but the biggest sellers are current stars with new recordings? 5. He points out consumers who stream "for pennies" dominate, but thinks if they offered prices at $10, and below costs, the industry would convert them to buying vinyl? Beyond the fact that the price is still hugely more expensive at that price point, how would they convert buyers and overcome the great advantage of streaming: you can hear it thru your PC or your phone or whatever - but if you have vinyl you can only hear it while sitting in front of your non-existent rig. I don't care if record companies make money, make a ton of money or turn into a single huge conglomerate. Vinyl was never going to be some huge part of their business again. Ever.

Everything is now sold. Thanks.

What the heck, to clear these out - $15 now on Tomcat

So let me get this straight: While they knew that Trevor Story had a serious problem with his throwing elbow (again), and Correa was still out there in limbo, they made no effort to try to get him? I swear they brought in that GM from Tampa and think they can win with a Tampa size payroll. What is the point of all this money coming in from NESN and the ballpark? And on top of that, Story is rapidly shaping up as the worst free agent signing in recent memory. Utterly shitty season last year, couldn't hit at all except for an isolated 15 day stretch in the late spring, plus other injuries that kept him off the field, and now missing all or most of 2023. He's going to get better as he goes deeper into his 30s?