clifford_thornton

This attempt at "communication" is rather ill...

Christ you guys are insane. I'm an agnostic but didn't get my undies in a bunch from the initial post. Here's to a speedy recovery for Mr. Cables...

We are a well-oiled machine!

Earl Freeman is just Earl Freeman (or 'goggles' to those in the know), as far as I can tell. Anything he's on is worth having - he just lends a certain 'vibe' to a session. Prefer Shapes to Outback and don't like SOS very much at all. Just one man's opinion.

Shellac of North America - Excellent Italian Greyhound - (Touch & Go)

Theo Loevendie - Orlando - (Waterland) Hard-swinging date w/ Hans Dulfer, Arjen Gorter and Martin van Duynhoven.

The best Third Stream work I've heard is that cool Larry Austin piece ("Improvisation for Orchestra and Jazz Soloists") with Barre Phillips, Don Ellis and Joe Cocuzzo from a Bernstein-conducted Columbia LP of New Music. Austin was in the New Music Ensemble, an obscure and way-out California contemporary of the Gruppo Nuova Consananza. They made one insanely-rare custom LP that I would pay at least $8 for.

A friend of mine - so he says - was going through a collection coming into the record store. In the gatefold to a Yusef Lateef Impulse LP were a few buds, apparently still smokeable...

Does Iverson--or his bandmates, since that "no irony" post was a collaborative effort--dis other people for recording some of the shit they do? Well, I thnk you gotta look at the rip on "Surrey...." as being a somewhat implicit "the only reason to record this anymore is to mock it" or something like that stance. Which is kinda goofy, because there's no reason to record any of that stuff any more. :g Ok, I support him for taking the "we record what we like because we like it" thing, but he's still overthinking the shit waaaaay too much, and as edc seems to be implying, what he's doing wouldn't even raise an eyebrow if the "jazz world" - including that part of it which TBP is a part - was even remotely mentally healthy. Right, there isn't much reason to do "Surrey" these days (Newk took it there decades ago), nor do I see much reason to do "Iron Man" since even the Sabbath tune itself is a) not that great to begin with and b) most rock bands who would even dare to reference it do so totally ironically. That song is a joke at this point, and even if they claim to do it seriously, who listening to it at this point is going to think anything BUT irony? And, that song sucks. And Dave King is a basher.

Fuck Universal/Verve/Impulse. More wasteful than RVG'ing a Conn of three years ago.

Yeah, it is. Right now: William Hooker - Is Eternal Life - (Reality Unit Concepts) wiiiild set w/ David Murray, David Ware, Mark Miller, Hasaan Dawkins and Les Goodson. The solo shit is from some proto-Cooper-Moore (&Milford) shaman bag, hackle-raising to be sure.

I dunno, the interesting thing about hearing Cecil do "This Nearly Was Mine" or "What's New," or Dolphy do "Softly as in a Morning Sunrise" is the way they implied or played around the theme in oblique reference whilst using the thematic or chordal structure as a basis for improvising in terms way-out. Stating the obvious is not necessarily the way to go, y'know?

I'm not reading this whole thread, sorry, but did anyone stop to think that one's brain/mind is not fully formed enough at age thirteen to make critical judgments of taste (or that much else), and that said rejection of top-40 tunes occurs a few years later precisely because critical thinking development has finally begun to occur?

Wait, are we splitting hairs on an $8 LP???

Mine has pale blue labels that say EK 004 as the only catalog information.

Peter Warren - Bass Is - (Enja German orig) cool LP, one side a bass quartet with Dave Holland, Glen Moore and Jaime Faunt, the other side adding Barry Altschul, Stu Martin and Steve Hauss on drums, John Surman on baritone and Chick Corea on piano clusters/guts.

What one do you need?

I had a nice black-label Jazzland of that that I traded to someone. Regretted it since...

Goldmine or no, it was misgraded. I wouldn't sweat the Goldmine issue at all and just tell him you weren't satisfied. If he's not too big an asshole, he should refund your money. On the feedback issue, I never ask for it but am happy to receive it. I leave feedback in every instance that was positive, and don't fool with negs save on one totally retarded situation.

Mine's on Ekapa... never saw a Vol.2 of this one, strangely.

I really enjoy the RCA, Riverside and New Jazz LPs (wasn't there a third on Prestige with a green cover?)... will have to listen to the archived show online if I can.

Really enjoying his playing ca. '61 with Bud Powell on the recent/expanded ESP-Disk' CD:

Ed Curran - Elysa - (Savoy orig) Obscure Dixon-produced side as the one and only appearance of this reedman on wax. Also features Marc Levin, Bob Pozar and bassist Kyoshi Tokunaga.