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Yes indeed, thanks for the reminder. This is an awesome thread.

Yeah, Takemitsu is wonderful. I have the Victor box set and a bunch of his Deutsche Grammophon records (missing one rare Japan-only album). 60 discs is something else, however -- wow. I don't know Matsudaira at all; will check that music out.

The Ocoras I haven't heard but will check them out. Mayuzumi is rad. Of course Takemitsu as well, and Joji Yuasa has some pretty fascinating pieces too. There are a wide range of practices within the realm of a European-inspired avant-garde within postwar Japan. I've got a couple of boxed sets of Minouru Miki's music and that might be a good place to go next from the Yonin No Kai records. His pieces for koto as played by Keiko Nosaka are sick -- she's performed a lot of new-music work for koto, in addition to more traditional repertoire.

pretty much correct. Some contemporary some earlier, IIRC. The book is cool so hopefully you find a complete copy someday. I don't really know kanji and therefore haven't added this release to Discogs. I believe there was a CD version as well at one point, though I may be mistaken about that. It's a very interesting set.

didn't know about Jane Getz' visual art.

you got it quick! Hope you enjoy.

Ha, yeah. I often assume most of the board members are on similar pages but that can hardly be accurate.

Hell yeah. I got to know Hal a bit. Really sweet man. Still very sad that he's gone.

haha, yeah, the feet get old. this place was and is my jazz education -- I knew some about the music before hopping on, but the level of expertise and experience here is mind-boggling. Jim and I may have butted heads a few times but I can't remember them so I'm inclined to think that if it ever happened it wasn't serious. the political threads' disappearance is probably for the best. It's an easy place to get shit stirred up; I mostly avoided it.

I'm more of a Night Music fan myself. That was some shit. I was a little young to understand jazz but thought the eclecticism of the program was very interesting.

Damn, I'm so sorry to hear this, Kevin.

Yes, you're right about Brown. I've heard of but not seen that 1984 book. The hand-decorated Ra covers are cool, some designed by Ra himself while others were designed by Arkestra members. It's a little difficult to parse who did what. I've never seen anything outside the realm of album/broadside design.

Turkish drummer Hüseyin Ertunç was a pretty interesting painter as well. His drawings are on the cover of the first edition of the Phill Musra on Intex as well as his own title on the label.

yeah, I wouldn't put Bill Dixon in this category. the SME can get into an uproar but it is another vibe entirely.

Cool. They did a nice job on the mastering/pressing of BUT, though I still find the cover reconstruction pretty crappy.

correct, thanks for the reminder about Davie. I have one of his prints actually. Mellé is cool. I don't know the size of his works, and wonder if any/how many were done outside the context of album design.

Yeah, I almost left once because of clementine but we worked it out and are cool. I miss Paul Secor. It's easy enough to mute posts by people that annoy you. I've done that for one or two folks, none of whom have (so far) posted in this thread. Surely some have done the same for me.

Jews In Hell is an awesome album on which Allen plays a lot of guitar and sings some too!

howzit sound? I do really like this record a lot. My clean original sounds good but the private pressing isn't perfectly quiet.

Peter Ind I seem to recall reading somewhere that Bob Thompson (painter) also played drums a bit. He was close with Steve Lacy, Archie Shepp, Ornette, Don Cherry, and others.

Muhal Richard Abrams Milford Graves (kinetic sculpture) also going the other way, referencing Penck above, there was the Artist's Jazz Band in Toronto (of which Snow was a member) and the Park Place Gallery jazz band (unrecorded 60s free jazz ensemble comprised of sculptors and painters associated with the gallery). yes to Bennink, thanks for the reminder. Also, Misha Mengelberg was loosely associated with Fluxus in its Amsterdam satellite. I don't know how much visual work he did (the ICP 002 maze was his, IIRC) but he was part of that scene in the mid-60s. Keith Rowe (not sure if you want to call him a jazz musician per se)

Roscoe, yep! That book is tremendous. Also, Bill Dixon Richard "Dickie" Landry (an accomplished painter and photographer as well as saxophonist) Michael Snow (painter, sculptor, filmmaker, pianist, trumpeter) Marzette Watts (studied painting at the Sorbonne) Rob Mazurek Peter Brötzmann Peter Kowald Sven-Åke Johansson A.R. Penck (known more as a painter but also recorded prolifically as a drummer, keyboardist, and bassist) Alfred 23 Harth Rodrigo Amado (great photographer in addition to being a heck of tenor player). Vandermark is also an excellent photographer. Ornette

Yes indeed. The drum parts written for Cleve Pozar on Dixon's Intents and Purposes are pretty incredible as well. Whole record is a masterpiece. But I have a hard time thinking of his music as understated in any way!

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