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Robbie Robertson, Leader of The Band, Dies at 80
clifford_thornton replied to Hardbopjazz's topic in Artists
That is true about Big Pink. I have taken a gander at it and took a few photos some years back -- was a rainy, dreary day, so kinda perfect. The Levon Helm Studios concerts are very expensive, so that keeps me out. -
Robbie Robertson, Leader of The Band, Dies at 80
clifford_thornton replied to Hardbopjazz's topic in Artists
Unfortunate news indeed. Now that I live Upstate and near Woodstock/212, that group is pretty unavoidable and so much a part of the cultural fabric. I actually didn't keep any Band records but should revisit them. Really beautiful songs that transcend ubiquity. -
JACK CHAMBERS
clifford_thornton replied to Larry Kart's topic in Jazz In Print - Periodicals, Books, Newspapers, etc...
Was just looking at that Chambers book on DT online... still might check it out, and keep a healthy jar of salt nearby. -
Don Pullen-Milford Graves at Yale: Big Bucks
clifford_thornton replied to Mark Stryker's topic in Discography
Yes. You can't expect to hull down for years, make great art, and yet somehow avoid playing that publicity game in order to be recognized. -
New podcast - Break A Vase
clifford_thornton replied to Alexander Hawkins's topic in Jazz Radio & Podcasts
Aha! Yeah, this show is a peek inside the composer's mind. Great programming, sir. -
Don Pullen-Milford Graves at Yale: Big Bucks
clifford_thornton replied to Mark Stryker's topic in Discography
right, well, Moncur and Shepp could also walk the line between straight-ahead and free; Silva didn't really do that (although some of his post-Seasons orchestral works had modal and swing sections), and Wright didn't until the 1980s. Thornton, like Wright, had bands that were inside/outside though he was in no way an "inside" player. But it's not entirely about what's being played, either -- it's something else, and we see that today just as much as people did 50 years ago. I suppose one could attach it to press as well -- Milford and Shepp were in the magazines and contributing articles back in the '60s. Milford had an awareness of the avenues in which his ideas and craft could be presented, and not every artist has that approach boiled down. -
Don Pullen-Milford Graves at Yale: Big Bucks
clifford_thornton replied to Mark Stryker's topic in Discography
Yeah, things were different back then. I think he was able to get them fixed eventually. Silva's story is pretty interesting, too, don't get me wrong -- his mother was a real heavy in Brooklyn Civil Rights; he was (and still is) an abstract painter; studied trumpet with Donald Byrd before switching to the bass; cofounded the Free Form Improvisation Ensemble with Burton Greene, Jon Winter, et al.; worked steadily with Bill Dixon, Cecil Taylor, and Albert Ayler; decamped to France and founded a music school called the Institute of Art, Culture & Perception, along with being at ground zero for the Actuel activities and running Center of the World with Frank Wright, Bobby Few, and Muhammad Ali... the cat is very, very accomplished. He was talking in the 90s about having "sound galleries" where recordings of improvised music and their hand-decorated jackets could be displayed and sold for collector prices... (I remember this from a great interview he did with the late Larry Nai for Cadence). But some people present more easily as a package and I don't think Silva is that guy. -
Don Pullen-Milford Graves at Yale: Big Bucks
clifford_thornton replied to Mark Stryker's topic in Discography
Well, Milford also had two separate but related museum retrospectives (one in Philly, one in NY/LA) in the US during the last few years. Milford is also more of a story, via the Full Mantis documentary and other cultural appearances, to those outside the music and a recognizable name among hip cognoscenti. Obviously he is a great musician and a fascinating figure, but the cache is there too -- Silva, who I find just as fascinating for similar and different reasons, does not have the cache. -
Don Pullen-Milford Graves at Yale: Big Bucks
clifford_thornton replied to Mark Stryker's topic in Discography
Lot of money for a record, but at the same time I thought it would go for a fair bit more. -
Don Pullen-Milford Graves at Yale: Big Bucks
clifford_thornton replied to Mark Stryker's topic in Discography
and just a little bit more money, perhaps they could've painted your living and dining room as well! -
I quite like his Prestige run (and of course the work with Mingus). He is or was fairly active and responsive on Instagram; not sure if that goes for other social media platforms as well. Haven't seen him in person but if the opportunity presents itself I'll remind myself to take it.
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The BASTIDS are out of stock for the moment but should be getting more in shortly. I dig the writeup, which is now live (and wasn't up there the other day). https://www.dustygroove.com/item/149232/Clifford-Allen:Singularity-Codex-Matthew-Shipp-On-Rogue-Art?sf=singularity+codex&incl_oos=1&incl_cs=1&kwfilter=singularity+codex&sort_order=artist
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New podcast - Break A Vase
clifford_thornton replied to Alexander Hawkins's topic in Jazz Radio & Podcasts
is the breaking a vase a reference to "Rip, Rig & Panic" ? will definitely check some of this out -- @ep1str0phy and I were just talking about you. -
What vinyl are you spinning right now??
clifford_thornton replied to wolff's topic in The Vinyl Frontier
never saw him live. The records are fun but I don't really pull them off the shelves these days. -
What vinyl are you spinning right now??
clifford_thornton replied to wolff's topic in The Vinyl Frontier
yeah, I prefer that mix too -- I had both versions and kept the Rough Trade. The best James Chance stuff I've heard is that live album on ROIR -- the presence of Bern Nix and Joseph Bowie doesn't hurt! The Lower East Side was quite an artistic melting pot back then. -
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that's a cool photo. I like Beirach a lot -- was just listening to a beautiful duo with him and Masahiko Togashi the other day. Another pianist that Shipp has made me appreciate all the more.
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Very sad news. Saw ICP Orchestra quite a few times, and saw Tristan with Cecil and as a solo performer also. He was a real original. Re: The Pop Group, Honsinger worked extensively with Steve Beresford in the '70s and I assume that would be the connection.
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Used to have FB and Twitter, shut both accounts down -- way too hairy in terms of blow-hardiness and lunacy. I do use IG quite a lot for gig/project promotion. That is for me its only purpose. I used to post pics of records/etc. but then the vinyl IG deluge started and I could no longer deal. But I am still on there tooting away. tried Mastodon for a second and could not grasp how to use it, really don't care... and Threads I am avoiding.
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Great album indeed! also, good call on the First National Band. I should try PPL again.
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Lots of unreleased sessions, so it's pretty neat.
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