jazzbo

I guess I just misunderstood your initial posts. They disappointed me too. You're allowed your opinion, I'm allowed mine; I wasn't disputing this. I guess I do strongly disagree with your assessment that he is not a significant jazz artist. That I think is incorrect. And I guess I read too much value into your statement about "odd choice." (And I strongly feel it is just the kind of choice we're going to see in the future from Mosaic, and not odd at all). I'll shut up about it. My apologies if I seemed to be belittling your opinion, I did not mean to be.

Okay, so why did you say this was an odd choice for Mosaic? You trashed Rich and implied this should not be a Mosaic, read what you wrote. I'm not discussing this any longer. . . .I've said enough on this subject. I'm inclined to buy this after it has been out a while if my finances improve. 'Nuff said.

Thanks Alan! Not even the black balloons my boss brought in got me down!

Tranemonk, it's hard to say for certain without a discography posted, but yes, I suspect that Rich vs. Roach will not be included in this set. It's worth checking out. Niether Rich nor Roach are particular favorites of mine, but as Mike points out this session was very well arranged/orchestrated, and there are some great performances.

I wasn't viewing that as unacceptable at all. I do feel that Brad's statement that Rich was not significant or important as a jazz figure or even a good player and that it was odd that Mosaic would dedicate a set to him was just. . . wrong. Seems like he was saying that Mosaic shouldn't issue sets by anyone HE didn't like. I'll quit harping on that.

Sure. Not my situation though. I don't have all these in K2, etc. but that's less and less an issue for me.

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Just got this in last night and have become fixated upon listening to it. EXCELLENT release! Three new Bix items! (One alternate from a Whiteman session, two Trumbauer session alternates). An exceptionally well selected and sequenced 23 other items that showcase the Bix influence and style from cornetists and others such as Bose, Secrest, Payne, Theck, Bruce, Norvo, Carmichael, Nichols, Goodman, Bloom, Stewart, Nesbitt, Hackett et al. Reallly this program is a delight: the material is exceptional, the flow from one to another just wonderful. Top that off with excellent notes from Sudhalter and superb sound. J. R. T. Davies handled three items, Michael Keiffer the rest (and Keiffer's work here is top notch) with an amazing restoration of the "Futuristic Rhythm" alternate by Keiffer and "Seth B. Winner Sound Studios" (the disc was cracked all the way through and you don't hear a thump at all!) Highly recommended for those who own the previous four volumes, or who just dig the Bixian sound. This is up there with the Bird and Diz Town Hall Concert and the upcoming Carnegie Hall Monk and Trane as releases of the year in my opinion!

I fully understand why these are reissued this way. I just wish there were items here that weren't reissues of reissues of reissues.

I certainly don't expect you to. Why would i? I'm in no way suggesting that.

Yes, I'm not rebuying this stuff. . . . Give us something not yet on cd!

Hey, I prefer Big Sid, Klook, Jo, Elveen, Tony and a dozen others to Rich as well. But tht doesn't mean he is not a significant jazz artist and leader, or that he was an "odd choice" for a Mosaic set. Looking at the market that Mosaic carved out for themselves, it makes perfect sense for me that Mosaic is releasing this. It's a chunk of material not well reissued on compact disc in this country, with a roster of jazz greats and a clear connection between all the sessions. It will sell better, I predict, than the Kid Ory and a few other sets. If you look at it with an open mind and a sense that others' tastes may differ from one's one (especially a jazz audience that is not posting all over the internet) it's not an "odd choice." They have to move into directions like this now I think. There is so much that has been released from the Blue Note vaults, and some items will have to be left for the parent label there to handle. This Rich set falls in line with sets from Krupa/James, Ventura/Phillips, even Eldridge and O'Day. . . . We'll see more items that the bebop and hardbop centric here may find "odd". . . but it's not a bebop and hard bop only world that Mosaic has targeted!

I was surprised to note that the OOP Byrd-Adams Mosaic was within a catalog from Collectors Choice Music that I received Wednesday.

Thanks for the headsup!

Affleck should be smiling all the time. . . doubt he is. He probably thinks SHE'S lucky.

I hear her sister Ash is going to star in the movie of "That Girl". . . Yeah right!

Well, you're both entitled to your opinion! To say that Rich is not a significant jazz player and not a good player is something I couldn't say myself. I don't think that's an accurate assessment.

I wasn't kidding regarding Blakey---I think techincally Rich is a better drummer than Blakey. (I happen to have been a drummer, maybe I listen for different things). You don't like his playing as well, but Rich is quite significant in the jazz world and I'll just disagree that this is an "odd choice." Blakey dominates a number of Messengers sessions too!

I'm sure you are right about that. Anyone seen the "Boots Made for Walkin'" video? Worth watching with the sound off. . . . Willie looks embarassed most of the time.

Ah. . . they deserve each other. I'm not jealous. Now Ben Afleck. . . he doesn't deserve Jennifer Garner, and I'm jealous.

August 4, 1955 (yesterday) Hank Jones, Wendell Marshall, Kenny Clarke "The Trio" Savoy, Van Gelder, Hackensack.

Now I've started Alias "Season 2". . . . It's a tiny bit less interesting than the first season, at least so far (I'm about five shows in). I never could get my wife interested in the series, so I haven't watched any of these when they were aired. I think it's better this way because you can sail through the cliffhangers. Man, I thought this show would be like "24" but it's so much better . . . I really don't dig "24". . . cheezwhizomatic.

You know, this hasn't really happened to me in a long time, because I've explored so much music that I now have a pretty good sense of what will or won't work for me, and I rarely end up with a recording that looked very promising but was disappointing. . . . I might be disappointed in the sonic quality perhaps, but even that. . . I listen to some stuff that just sounds awful to others. . . . I post on a board for the manufacturer of stereo equipment I use, and reading the posts there a lot of the material we here think sounds great they would consider mediocre; they would really be aghast at the sound of some of the historical recordings we can enjoy here. . . .

This is an Elektra 10". . . and may be the one that is in question. . . ? I think the Folkways may be an entirely different animal. (I've heard neither. With my luck I'd contract a voudoun curse).