GA Russell Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 I received in the mail today a press release from Concord, listing upcoming releases. Due in Q1, 2006, are: The Miles Davis Quintet featuring John Coltrane - The Legendary Quintet Sessions, 1956, a 3-CD set. I said here earlier that I expected them to do this, but I wonder why they haven't included the first recordings from 1955. Sonny Stitt - Stitt's Bits: The Bebop Recordings, 1949-1952, a 3-CD set on Prestige. Due in Q2, 2006, are Rudy Van Gelder Remasters on Prestige: Eric Dolphy - Out There Gene Ammons - Boss Tenor John Coltrane - Lush Life Miles Davis - Relaxin' Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus Coleman Hawkins - The Hawk Relaxes Burrell/Coltrane - Kenny Burrell/John Coltrane Kenny Dorham - Quiet Kenny Red Garland - Red Garland's Piano The Modern Jazz Quartet - Django Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Maybe they will sound better - he can try and improve his own intentionally inferior sound ..... but we get the umpteenth issue of readily available material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 I certainly won't be buying these. I'm perfectly happy with my Miles DCC remasters, and as for the others mentioned, well, let's just say that I'm not a fan of RVGs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesbed Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 I'd rather have more/new K2 remasters done by Tamaki Beck and Shigeo Miyamoto. These two gentlemen, in my opinion, are generally superior to the current product offered under the RVG name. I wonder if Concord will continue the K2 series with the remastering done by Tamaki Beck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 I'd rather have more/new K2 remasters done by Tamaki Beck and Shigeo Miyamoto. ← Without the high-end boost some of the K2s have, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Any thoughts? ← As years go by, I'm tending to be less and less inspired to buy the same music over and over again. I know there are those who are more interested in sonic upgrades, but there is still more music that hasn't been reissued at all. I'll never become militant about the whole thing, but I have to say that these types of announcements don't often excite me much. The Stitt material looks promising, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Any thoughts? ← As years go by, I'm tending to be less and less inspired to buy the same music over and over again. I know there are those who are more interested in sonic upgrades, but there is still more music that hasn't been reissued at all. I'll never become militant about the whole thing, but I have to say that these types of announcements don't often excite me much. ← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Fuck Concord! There, I feel much better. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Shearn Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 I'm not sure if I will buy these either............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 I've stopped double-dippin'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Eric Dolphy - Out There John Coltrane - Lush Life Miles Davis - Relaxin' Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus Burrell/Coltrane - Kenny Burrell/John Coltrane The Modern Jazz Quartet - Django ← All these were released on SACD lately, supposed to be superior to CDs. It doesn't make sense to reissue them on newly remastered CDs again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 All these were released on SACD lately, supposed to be superior to CDs. It doesn't make sense to reissue them on newly remastered CDs again. ← We talking about record company execs and many customers here. Makes sense to me. There are more than a couple of universes out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 I agree with Chuck, from a marketing standpoint this is a natural. . . they might as well get on the RVG reissue wagon as Blue Note and Verve (and even the Monk Family) have used him . . . There must be some money in it for the labels. Concord might as well come out of the ropes with something new and proven. And I happen to be one of those who likes his remastering work a lot. . . . I'd be interested in hearing these. . . I'll probably get a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Any thoughts? ← As years go by, I'm tending to be less and less inspired to buy the same music over and over again. I know there are those who are more interested in sonic upgrades, but there is still more music that hasn't been reissued at all. I'll never become militant about the whole thing, but I have to say that these types of announcements don't often excite me much. ← ← What they said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolff Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 With Steve Hoffman in the middle of doing the mastering of 100 Fantasy/Concord titles for the 45 RPM vinyl series for Analogue Productions, it would be nice to see him get a crack at a boat-load of titles for more digital reissues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesbed Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 I've purchased most all of the RVGs that have been issued by Blue Note. This is due, in most cases, to the fact that I don't already own these titles. And, the RVGs are better than the 1980s McMaster re-issues. In many cases, however, I don't believe Van Gelder is 'the best' at the art of remastering. Yes, I know many of these recordings were recorded, initially, by Rudy Van Gelder. However, I don't believe that Van Gelder is ALWAYS the best at the art of remastering in the modern day. Ron McMaster is better sometimes. In regard to Fantasy/Concord, I have no desire to purchase RVGs of titles that have already been made available in the K2 format. I believe the K2s are VERY good and, most of the time, better than the RVGs issued by Blue Note. Please, leave the RVGs to Blue Note. It's been a terrific series. However, I prefer to purchase Fantasy reissues that have been remastered by Tamaki Beck and Shigeo Miyamoto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD45 Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Eric Dolphy - Out There John Coltrane - Lush Life Miles Davis - Relaxin' Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus Burrell/Coltrane - Kenny Burrell/John Coltrane The Modern Jazz Quartet - Django ← All these were released on SACD lately, supposed to be superior to CDs. It doesn't make sense to reissue them on newly remastered CDs again. ← I bought some of these SACD hybrids via yourmusic.com. They sound more than fine to these ears... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 I'm done with buying the Fantasy stuff over and over again. The SACDs are fine by me. Don't need that RVG stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 In many cases, however, I don't believe Van Gelder is 'the best' at the art of remastering. Yes, I know many of these recordings were recorded, initially, by Rudy Van Gelder. However, I don't believe that Van Gelder is ALWAYS the best at the art of remastering in the modern day. Ron McMaster is better sometimes. RVG wasn't the best at recording, either. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Definitely not! I do really like his remastering work of disc-recorded sessions and his own sessions; guess it's a matter of personal tastes. . . . I'd rather he than McMaster handle his sessions tapes. . . decidedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 I'd rather he than McMaster handle his sessions tapes. . . decidedly. ← I'd rather neither handled the session tapes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Some releases. But they're all already available. Just let me try to get all of the cd's in the world first before I go making doubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted August 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I'm surprised by the coolness toward van Gelder I see here, because I never see it on the threads about the Blue Note RVGs. There must be some interest, though, because this thread has over 540 views in less than two days! I'm looking forward to the Miles Quintet release. I have the four LPs, and I assume that this release will have the songs in recorded order, which I would like to hear. I wonder if Concord will allow the OJCs of the albums it has remastered to go out of print. It wouldn't surprise me. Why keep on pressing the old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I'm surprised by the coolness toward van Gelder I see here, because I never see it on the threads about the Blue Note RVGs. There must be some interest, though, because this thread has over 540 views in less than two days! I'm looking forward to the Miles Quintet release. I have the four LPs, and I assume that this release will have the songs in recorded order, which I would like to hear. I wonder if Concord will allow the OJCs of the albums it has remastered to go out of print. It wouldn't surprise me. Why keep on pressing the old? ← I think the "coolness" has to do with several (many?) of these sessions being already widely available as regular OJCs, K2s, and SACDS. Do we really need 3-4 different masterings of the exact same material out at the same time? (Though at least the SACDs will likely be cutouts soon.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I'm surprised by the coolness toward van Gelder I see here, because I never see it on the threads about the Blue Note RVGs. Hm, I posted some rather not-so-positive comments on Blue Note RVGs over the last few years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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