miles65 Posted April 29, 2014 Author Report Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) It's weird, yeah as of this posting there doesn't seem to be any trace of the Django set on the Mosaic site. I wanted to check because i could've sworn it was listed as backordered until the second half of 2014 along with a whole bunch of other sets i was looking at getting recently... wondered how that would factor in to the whole 'last chance' thing... i could be mistaken though and it might have still been available, could've sworn though... You seem to have missed this e-mail from Mosaic: While we try to always give our customers a reasonable lead time when a set is going out of print, sometimes circumstances beyond our control force us to delete sets on short notice. During the recent sale of EMI Music, pieces of the company were sold to Warner Bros. rather than Universal Music. As a result, we lost the rights to manufacture more of our Sarah Vaughan (Roulette) and Django Reinhardt (EMI France) sets. The supplies we have on both sets are very low and will only be available for a short time. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Edited April 29, 2014 by Stompy Jones Quote
xybert Posted April 29, 2014 Report Posted April 29, 2014 It's weird, yeah as of this posting there doesn't seem to be any trace of the Django set on the Mosaic site. I wanted to check because i could've sworn it was listed as backordered until the second half of 2014 along with a whole bunch of other sets i was looking at getting recently... wondered how that would factor in to the whole 'last chance' thing... i could be mistaken though and it might have still been available, could've sworn though... You seem to have missed this e-mail from Mosaic: While we try to always give our customers a reasonable lead time when a set is going out of print, sometimes circumstances beyond our control force us to delete sets on short notice. During the recent sale of EMI Music, pieces of the company were sold to Warner Bros. rather than Universal Music. As a result, we lost the rights to manufacture more of our Sarah Vaughan (Roulette) and Django Reinhardt (EMI France) sets. The supplies we have on both sets are very low and will only be available for a short time. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Yeah i got that email but things don't always line up... i guess the most simple explanation (whether it was or wasn't showing as being backordered on their website they still had a very small amount in stock and now they're gone) is the most likely. Quote
mjzee Posted April 30, 2014 Report Posted April 30, 2014 Sarah Vaughan and Django Reinhardt sets now on Last Chance During the recent sale of EMI Music, pieces of the company were sold to Warner Bros. rather than Universal Music. As a result, we lost the rights to manufacture more of our Sarah Vaughan (Roulette) and Django Reinhardt (EMI France) sets. The supplies we have on both sets are very low and will only be available for a short time. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. So does this mean Warner Bros. now owns Roulette and EMI France masters? Quote
king ubu Posted April 30, 2014 Report Posted April 30, 2014 Hm, thought Universal took over the jazz parts of EMI? It's not that simple then, it seems ... never is. The Django isn't really essential in light of the other options there are to get his recordings, the Vaughan runs the gamut from rather horrible commercial stuff to - indeed! - divine singing and great music. Quote
gmonahan Posted April 30, 2014 Report Posted April 30, 2014 The Sarah set makes a perfect complement to the Mercury boxes put out back in the late 80s/early 90s. But Ubu is right--it definitely combines the great and the not so great. gregmo Quote
jazzbo Posted April 30, 2014 Report Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) HEY, now we can petition Warners to release huge sets of Studio and Live Basie, etc. Most likely we may see some interesting reissues from Japan? Edited April 30, 2014 by jazzbo Quote
romualdo Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 The Sarah set makes a perfect complement to the Mercury boxes put out back in the late 80s/early 90s. But Ubu is right--it definitely combines the great and the not so great. gregmo I ended up getting most of the box via the individual CD releases over the years - happy with that Quote
mjzee Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 Sarah Vaughan and Django Reinhardt sets now on Last Chance During the recent sale of EMI Music, pieces of the company were sold to Warner Bros. rather than Universal Music. As a result, we lost the rights to manufacture more of our Sarah Vaughan (Roulette) and Django Reinhardt (EMI France) sets. The supplies we have on both sets are very low and will only be available for a short time. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. So does this mean Warner Bros. now owns Roulette and EMI France masters? So what popped up today on eMusic? 4 Roulette titles, for which eMusic lists as the label Parlophone UK. Curiouser and curiouser. The titles: Count Basie - Chairman of the Board The Complete Roulette Dinah Washington (I guess this is the Mosaic) Dinah Washington - Dinah '62 Johnny Smith - Walk Don't Run Quote
sidewinder Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) The Django isn't really essential in light of the other options there are to get his recordings, the Vaughan runs the gamut from rather horrible commercial stuff to - indeed! - divine singing and great music. Sounds good to me re: the Sarah Vaughan. The Django I've had on the back-burner for years and years and also heard most of, glad to have finally picked up a copy at long last. Edited May 1, 2014 by sidewinder Quote
David Ayers Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 Lucky one or two who got the Berigan. Few creaky vocals maybe - and some of the great vocals of all time from Billie Holiday - but basically an involving set. Yes, I do know it was ripped off and is available elsewhere. Quote
king ubu Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 I went with the Fremeaux boxes eventually ... the Mosaic just wasn't enought for me, but I hold on to it, of course! Also to his whole run of Jazz in Paris discs ... there'd be a very nice small Vogue box, too - but reason kicks in, eventually, even with me The Vaughan has some really good stuff! The less than great (some of those singles session, the classical stuff) is in a minority, but it's there. On the other hand you get great things such as "Sarah Sings Soulfully" (of which I'd not even heard prior to receiving the Mosaic - too band Carmell Jones and Teddy Edwards don't get to blow) and well-known ones like the Basie and Benny Carter collaborations and of course the magnificient trio albums (Sarah + 2, After Hours). Quote
RiRiIII Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 Excellent ! Can't keep up with this. Django seems to have gone now from 'Last Chance' as well. They weren't kidding when they said that stock was very low. Crazy indeed. After I successfully placed my order with Jazz Messengers, it is listed as "out of stock"; last copy for me as well? Or, no copy at all... So, the always great Jazz Messengers sent me the shipping notification of the Sarah Vaughan set: the last copy goes to Greece! Quote
sidewinder Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) I went with the Fremeaux boxes eventually ... the Mosaic just wasn't enought for me, but I hold on to it, of course! Also to his whole run of Jazz in Paris discs ... there'd be a very nice small Vogue box, too - but reason kicks in, eventually, even with me The Vaughan has some really good stuff! The less than great (some of those singles session, the classical stuff) is in a minority, but it's there. On the other hand you get great things such as "Sarah Sings Soulfully" (of which I'd not even heard prior to receiving the Mosaic - too band Carmell Jones and Teddy Edwards don't get to blow) and well-known ones like the Basie and Benny Carter collaborations and of course the magnificient trio albums (Sarah + 2, After Hours). I'm a sucker for all of those Roulette sets that Mosaic have put out - not a dud between them and some stupendous stuff (especially the two Basies and the Maynard behemoth). Too bad I missed the Dinah Washington when it disappeared in the 2010 mega-blitz but sounds like I can catch up with it via the internet. Mosaic did the Roulette catalogue proud ! Nice one, Alexandros. Sounds like everyone is happy. Edited May 1, 2014 by sidewinder Quote
crisp Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 So what popped up today on eMusic? 4 Roulette titles, for which eMusic lists as the label Parlophone UK. Curiouser and curiouser. That confirms what I suspected: that the Roulette/Roost labels were part of the Parlophone deal that went to Warner when EMI was broken up (they also got Chrysalis and Virgin). I imagine that since Warner also got EMI Classics the deal included all the UK-based labels (although Roulette/Roost were US Mosaic eventually found the masters in London) with the US-based material going to UMG. Now will Warner reissue their Roulette Mosaics as they did the Reprise Ellington? Probably not. Quote
mjzee Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 So what popped up today on eMusic? 4 Roulette titles, for which eMusic lists as the label Parlophone UK. Curiouser and curiouser. That confirms what I suspected: that the Roulette/Roost labels were part of the Parlophone deal that went to Warner when EMI was broken up (they also got Chrysalis and Virgin). I imagine that since Warner also got EMI Classics the deal included all the UK-based labels (although Roulette/Roost were US Mosaic eventually found the masters in London) with the US-based material going to UMG. Now will Warner reissue their Roulette Mosaics as they did the Reprise Ellington? Probably not. Do you mean on CD? Let's hope. (There is the Dinah Mosaic now on mp3.) One of the things I find interesting is the speed with which Universal has restarted the Blue Note reissue program (CDs in Japan, LPs in America). I think BN was very high on Universal's wish list. In terms of box sets, I hope Universal can release some cross Prestige/BN projects on particular artists. Let's see how fast Warner releases the Roulette titles; it's very possible that the eMusic listings show Parlophone as a revived imprint of Warner, much like Decca has been used by Universal. Quote
crisp Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 Yes, CD definitely. Lossless downloads would be fine if the price were right. Thing is, I don't think Warner has traditionally made much of its jazz holdings, so I'm not getting my hopes up. But you never know. The Roulette Basies are basically what I want. I'm more optimistic about Universal, but cautiously: the Hip-o label hasn't released any jazz sets for years now. Quote
David Ayers Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 Now Jack Teagarden is about to bite the dust.... Quote
alankin Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 Yes, Mosaic just sent out an email adding "The Complete Roulette Jack Teagarden Sessions" to the list of Roulette sets with only a few copies remaining. Grab it now if you want it. Quote
mjzee Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 Are there any other Mosaic Roulettes? Might pay to buy them now, before the email comes. Quote
sidewinder Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) I've enjoyed the Capitol Teagarden set so have gone for the Roulette whilst it's still here. This is turning out to be an expensive and nerve-racking week ! Looks like the Teagarden has just gone.. Edited May 1, 2014 by sidewinder Quote
king ubu Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 Had missed the Dinah W. too, alas ... but I'm good on the Tea and the Basies (bought the studio last year, cost some, but hey, you only live once!) - the Ferguson was too expensive for my high schooler's admission back when it went onto the "running low" list, alas, but I was able to hear it, as I was with the Dinah. Quote
sidewinder Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) the Ferguson was too expensive for my high schooler's admission back when it went onto the "running low" list, alas, but I was able to hear it, as I was with the Dinah. I picked up the Ferguson in LP form when it was on 'last chance'. I think it gave the postie a hernia Edited May 1, 2014 by sidewinder Quote
crisp Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 Ah yes, Maynard Fergson. That's another one I don't have. C'mon, Warner! Quote
Ed S Posted May 2, 2014 Report Posted May 2, 2014 the Ferguson was too expensive for my high schooler's admission back when it went onto the "running low" list, alas, but I was able to hear it, as I was with the Dinah. I picked up the Ferguson in LP form when it was on 'last chance'. I think it gave the postie a hernia I picked up the Ferguson LP set when I did not even have a turntable. I wanted to get the CD set, but they were out. Mosaic offered me the LP set at the same price as the CD and I took it. If I recall correctly, it was a fairly substantial difference in price. Years later, I've got a turntable and am back in the vinyl groove, so to speak. Glad I grabbed the LP set when I was able. Are there any other Mosaic Roulettes? Might pay to buy them now, before the email comes. I'm clueless as to who owns what label. So I'm also wondering if any of you think or know of any more currently available sets are going to go OOP over night. Quote
mjzee Posted May 2, 2014 Report Posted May 2, 2014 I just looked at the Mosaic website, and didn't see any other Roulette material. Quote
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