jazzbo Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 59 minutes ago, l p said: i wonder who'll be the first to admit that the 1969 material is absolute junk. i haven't heard the '68. None of it is essential. It was fun to hear though, and I'll spin it again. . . and again. Not junk. Junk food maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, JSngry said: I'll admit it without even hearing it. I didn't buy it because I expected to be good. I bought it to buy it, to celebrate name recognition and the power of branding. I am not sure of the proper emoji to use here. "Word" as they used to say. Edited July 8, 2016 by Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 But I do love Betty Davis, for real. But this stuff is not that stuff. But I know that and buy anyway. Hello. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Miles went to Michael Henderson to get that funk, and then still had to go to Mtume & Reggie Lucas, and by then Pete Cosey, so, you know, game changed already, footsteps turn into a whole other pathway. Betty just says fuck it, Larry Graham, simple as that, this is not difficult. I mean, I definitely see what Miles was feeling, but Miles was a processor, and at this point he was still inputting his data. Phallocentric paranoia assumes that it was all about the dick getting played, but really, Miles got at least as much as he gave out of this over the long haul. Betty got a name, but Miles got inside ALL kinds of things that he wanted. Hungry people gonna eat, if they get the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 9 hours ago, JSngry said: Miles went to Michael Henderson to get that funk, and then still had to go to Mtume & Reggie Lucas, and by then Pete Cosey, so, you know, game changed already, footsteps turn into a whole other pathway. Betty just says fuck it, Larry Graham, simple as that, this is not difficult. I mean, I definitely see what Miles was feeling, but Miles was a processor, and at this point he was still inputting his data. Phallocentric paranoia assumes that it was all about the dick getting played, but really, Miles got at least as much as he gave out of this over the long haul. Betty got a name, but Miles got inside ALL kinds of things that he wanted. Hungry people gonna eat, if they get the chance. Sounds like an apt description to me .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 On 7/7/2016 at 2:44 PM, l p said: i wonder who'll be the first to admit that the 1969 material is absolute junk. i haven't heard the '68. See my June 29 post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 On 7.7.2016 at 8:44 PM, l p said: i wonder who'll be the first to admit that the 1969 material is absolute junk. i haven't heard the '68. Care to elaborate on that? I just gave it a first spin and enjoyed it. And I still consider the long familiar "Politician Man" a great track! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 do the liners dicuss how they got this from columbia? i also wonder if columbia ran them off a copy or let them use the tapes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 They are using the real tapes. Columbia let them have it, I think because Betty was on board, don't remember the notes specifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 If the Wax Poetics article of a few years ago remains accurate, she's living very modestly now, and not really by choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 Do Wayne and Larry get much solo space on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 On 7/17/2016 at 2:16 PM, jazzbo said: They are using the real tapes. Columbia let them have it, I think because Betty was on board, don't remember the notes specifying. The Sony logo is featured. On 7/22/2016 at 8:24 AM, bertrand said: Do Wayne and Larry get much solo space on this? I don't even hear Wayne (but he gets credit as an arranger). Most featured is McLaughlin. It's two dates and I don't hear two basses so I think Cox was on one and Brooks on the other. BTW I've been enjoying this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Ok, I finally listened to this today. It's not junk, but it's not gold, silver, or bronze either. It's..."ephemeral", that's what it is, the 1969 stuff extremely so. The main thing it left me wondering is what Betty Mabry would have sounded like if Willie Mitchell had gotten hold of her. But then she might never have gotten full hold of herself, and that's where things took a turn for the interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 I think it's a good, fun record -- not essential, but cool and I'm glad to be able to listen to it when the mood strikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 I will say this, that "Live, Love, Learn" sounds like a lost Jerry Ragovoy record, never hurts to that to happen to anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 I don't know Jerry Ragovoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 You have at least a little bit of fun ahead of you, then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Ragovoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 thanks, gents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Betty Davis documentary coming up on BBC4 TV tonight at 10:30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 A good watch it was too. Certainly gave respect to the subject. Left me wondering how her health is these days. The modest circumstances mentioned upthread seemed evident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, mjazzg said: A good watch it was too. Certainly gave respect to the subject. Left me wondering how her health is these days. The modest circumstances mentioned upthread seemed evident. In my view, easily the best thing on TV this week (not too difficult now that that damn Strictly has started ), her story was presented with great dignity and it was moving to see that phone ‘reunion’ with the old band. Much more than a Betty Davis music doc - it had lots to say about fame, the vagaries of show business, burnout, life after stardom and the effects of time and change. Here’s hoping she gets wider recognition for her influence and plenty of royalties both from the film and CD sales to make up for the past. That ‘Rock & Roll Britannia’ shown afterwards was interesting too, with Tony Crombie and Ronnie Scott doing rock & roll with Tommy Steele and the massed saxes of Lord Rockingham’s XI in action with Red Price and Benny Green. Priceless ! Edited October 5, 2019 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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