??? Pre-Bop Blue Note CDs

[JSngry]

How many are there, and what are they? I thought I had some, now I don't, know so I want to fi8ll my gaps, please, and thank you?

[felser]

Ammons/Lewis for sure on Blue Note.  Not sure beyond that, out of my wheelhouse.  Several Mosaic sets, and several PD issues of the material.  The guy whose work I really like from the era is John Hardee.

Edited April 25, 2021 by felser

[kh1958]

Edmond Hall, Profoundly Blue

George Lewis and His New Orleans Stompers

The Port of Harlem Jazzmen

Earl Hines, Pete Johnson, James P. Johnson, Reminiscing

Hot Jazz on Blue Note

Sidney Bechet, Runnit' Wild

[Chuck Nessa]

4 cds in the Mosaic Art Hodes set, the Mosaic George Lewis set was 5 lps, this

and this

and more Bechet and then Japanese cds by Ike Quebec (2), John Hardee and more.

[Chuck Nessa]

This is an almost comprehensive Bechet 3 cd set from a few years ago.

[Brad]

There’s also the Mosaic Select: Boogie Woogie and Blues Piano but I don’t think any are available at decent prices. 

[mikeweil]

7 hours ago, Brad said:

There’s also the Mosaic Select: Boogie Woogie and Blues Piano but I don’t think any are available at decent prices. 

That set does not include any Blue Note recordings - it is all RCA Victor etc.

[JSngry]

Thanks for the responses  some had indeed escaped my attention.

[Bluesnik]

19 hours ago, JSngry said:

How many are there, and what are they?

Same here. I want to know, since this is a period of BN I'm particularly interested in and that's a bit underrepresented. But I think it's already been explained above. I have all of the above, except the Port of Harlem boxset, Reminiscing, The BN Jazzmen and the Mosaics. Plus some Japanese CDs that were reissued in 1999 for BN's 60th (mostly Bechet, Quebec, Port of Harlem and Hardee) and I don't know if anything else. Plus I also have the Boogie Woogie Select, but that's not BN and some Bechet CDs. I'm wondering what I'm missing that has been released.

Edited April 25, 2021 by Bluesnik
Mosaics added

[gmonahan]

Mosaic covered pretty much all the pre-bop BNs in its earlier days

#103 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Albert Ammons and Meade Lux Lewis (2 CDs or 3 LPs)

#108 The Complete Recordings of The Port of Harlem Jazzmen (1 LP)

#109 The Complete Edmond Hall/James P. Johnson/Sidney De Paris/Vic Dickenson Blue Note Sessions (4 CDs or 6 LPs)

#110 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Sidney Bechet (4 CDs or 6 LPs)

#114 The Complete Art Hodes Blue Note Sessions (4 CDs or 5 LPs)

#115 The Benny Morton/Jimmy Hamilton Blue Note Swingtets (1 LP)

#119 The Pete Johnson/Earl Hines/Teddy Bunn Blue Note Sessions (1 LP)

#132 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of George Lewis (3 CDs or 5 LPs)

There were also the Ike Quebec and John Hardee sets, but I don't know if those would classify as "pre-Bop" or not!

 

 

gregmo

[Ed S]

1 hour ago, gmonahan said:

Mosaic covered pretty much all the pre-bop BNs in its earlier days

#103 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Albert Ammons and Meade Lux Lewis (2 CDs or 3 LPs)

#108 The Complete Recordings of The Port of Harlem Jazzmen (1 LP)

#109 The Complete Edmond Hall/James P. Johnson/Sidney De Paris/Vic Dickenson Blue Note Sessions (4 CDs or 6 LPs)

#110 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Sidney Bechet (4 CDs or 6 LPs)

#114 The Complete Art Hodes Blue Note Sessions (4 CDs or 5 LPs)

#115 The Benny Morton/Jimmy Hamilton Blue Note Swingtets (1 LP)

#119 The Pete Johnson/Earl Hines/Teddy Bunn Blue Note Sessions (1 LP)

#132 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of George Lewis (3 CDs or 5 LPs)

There were also the Ike Quebec and John Hardee sets, but I don't know if those would classify as "pre-Bop" or not!

 

 

gregmo

Thanks

 

Was just going to ask about how much of this stuff Mosaic covered

[JSngry]

Not at all wanting to go down the Mosaic Collector road for this stuff. Have some already, not going to go crazy to get the rest. Same with the BN label CDs, (mostly) reasonable prices have been found for the items I want. Thanks again for all the answers here.

[colinmce]

Everything I see above is what I know. What I would be interested in is what percentage of the total pre-bop recordings on BN do those CDs encompass?

[mikeweil]

The Mosaics are a total of 20-22 CDs (not all of them were on CD). The Blue Notes are about half as many, not counting the 4 CD Hot Jazz set, which overlaps with them.

Blue Note CDs:

Albert Ammons & Meade Lux Lewis 1 CD

Reminiscin' - 1 CD

Edmond Hall - 2 CDs

Blue Note Jazzmen - 2 CDs

Sidney Bechet Hits - 1 CD

Sidney Bechet w. Davison - 1 CD

Port of Harlem Jazzmen - 1 CD

George Lewis -  1 CD ?

Swingtets - 1 CD

Hot Jazz box set - 4 CDs

That makes 15. 

Edited March 5, 2023 by mikeweil

[Late]

A previous thread on the Japanese series of this music.

[Bluesnik]

4 hours ago, mikeweil said:

George Lewis -  1 CD ?

Yes, I have a George Lewis CD out of the same domestic (US, that is) BN 60th anniversary batch the Swingtets (perhaps the best of 'em all, together with Profoundly Blue by Edmond Hall and which features Charlie Christian) album is from.

[gmonahan]

5 hours ago, colinmce said:

Everything I see above is what I know. What I would be interested in is what percentage of the total pre-bop recordings on BN do those CDs encompass?

That's a good question. It does seem to me like I remember reading *somewhere* from Michael that Mosaic had "completed" the pre-bop BNs with its releases, but my memory on that is far from sure.

 

 

gregmo

[felser]

1 hour ago, gmonahan said:

That's a good question. It does seem to me like I remember reading *somewhere* from Michael that Mosaic had "completed" the pre-bop BNs with its releases, but my memory on that is far from sure.

 

 

gregmo

I remember the same comment from Cuscuna.

[Chuck Nessa]

Missing are some stragglers by Josh White, Jimmy Shirley, Alamo "Pigmeat" Markham and Clyde Bernhardt.

[JSngry]

A true one-off?!?!?!?!

[danasgoodstuff]

2 hours ago, JSngry said:

A true one-off?!?!?!?!

IIRC, he recorded more but that was all that was issued, no idea if the unissued sides still exist.  I think there's some other unissued BN from this era as well but again no idea if it still exists in any form.  It's in the print and online discographies.

[Chuck Nessa]

He made 2 sessions. The first is totally unissued (5 titles, 11 takes), the second produced Jimmy's Blues, 3 unissued titles and Stardust issued in a box set in Germany and Japan circa 1983.

[JSngry]

Stardust, eh?

[Chuck Nessa]

I have a copy of BN 530, the Josh White (BN 23), one of the Markhams (BN 48) and one of the Bernhardts (BN 1202). I began collecting the 78s in the '80s.

Edited April 27, 2021 by Chuck Nessa

[Late]

38 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said:

He made 2 sessions ... the second produced Jimmy's Blues ...