Jack De Johnette RIP

[clifford_thornton]

3 hours ago, JSngry said:

 

Love that one. Have the Japanese LP pressing with that cover as well. Probably the first place I (and most people outside of Japan) heard Hideo Ichikawa.

[felser]

37 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

Love that one. Have the Japanese LP pressing with that cover as well. Probably the first place I (and most people outside of Japan) heard Hideo Ichikawa.

Definitely was for me.  I need to pull that one out and re-listen, it's been a long time.  Looong album sides on that one, 29+ minutes each.

[Guy Berger]

Incredible drummer.  Hard to imagine Miles’s music evolving from “Directions” to On the Corner without his presence, and his appearances on ECM as a sideman/leader were usually of extremely high quality.

Strong agreement on Special Edition and Album Album being the best of that band’s work, though all 4 of the ECMs are worth hearing.

[JSngry]

1 hour ago, clifford_thornton said:

Love that one. Have the Japanese LP pressing with that cover as well. Probably the first place I (and most people outside of Japan) heard Hideo Ichikawa.

Got it when I was 16 or so, a cutout. Only kinda got it then, time took care of that.

Interesting now to hear the title track alongside some of Chick's SS material with Maupin sound like the goings on of the Lost Quintet - which at the time unless you had heard them live you HADN'T heard them!

You HAVEN'T?

Seriously don't that that was the intent, but history makes it's own jokes sometimes.

[BFrank]

4 hours ago, Milestones said:

Special Edition and Album Album, in particular, are excellent records.  

For sure

[Pim]

He was among the greatest. RIP

[ghost of miles]

Hank Shteamer on The Infinity of Jack DeJohnette.

Hard to imagine the jazz world without Jack DeJohnette in it anymore. 

[sgcim]

He even recorded and gigged with the Bill Evans Trio back in 1967-68. RIP.

[mhatta]

RIP.  Papa Joe, Buddy, Klook, Roy, Art B, Art T, Max, Sherry, Philly Joe, Elvin, Tony, Billy, Paul, and now Jack... each had their own distinct personality, and you could tell who it was just by hearing them play. They're all gone now. Am I the only one who thinks drums have become so bland lately?

 

I also quite like Jack as a modal pianist.

 

[clifford_thornton]

I quite enjoy that Jackeyboard album.

“Jazz” is in a weird place and it’s not only one instrument (or set of instruments) that has a blandness problem. But that’s another thread!

[T.D.]

After spinning the "Special Edition" box I'm listening to some more offbeat recordings with Jack:

The duet with Foday Musa Suso

Bill Evans Trio At the Montreux Jazz Festival

Nick Brignola On a Different Level (my favorite Brignola album)

[JSngry]

And then there was Compost...

[Milestones]

Yes, Jack was great for his amazing skills and his unique style--that's why he is up there with Max, Tony, Elvin, Art, and those true greats.

There are some fine drummers our there, like Joey Baron and Bill Stewart.  But I think they are a level or two down from Jack.  

[clifford_thornton]

11 hours ago, JSngry said:

And then there was Compost...

Never connected with them, but that’s probably on me.

There are definitely a lot of fine (at a minimum) drummers on the scene! But the working situations leave a lot to be desired and I think that has a detrimental effect on the “feel” of the music. It’s not so lived-in, nor is it particularly cutthroat.

[Steve Reynolds]

15 hours ago, mhatta said:

RIP.  Papa Joe, Buddy, Klook, Roy, Art B, Art T, Max, Sherry, Philly Joe, Elvin, Tony, Billy, Paul, and now Jack... each had their own distinct personality, and you could tell who it was just by hearing them play. They're all gone now. Am I the only one who thinks drums have become so bland lately?

 

I also quite like Jack as a modal pianist.

 

Not listening to the great drummers of today. Blessed to be seeing Gerry Hemingway tonight at The Stone. It’s actually a golden age for drummers. The older guys like Hemingway, Hamid Drake, Paul Lytton, Han Bennink & Andrew Cyrille still playing at a very high level. 
 

the slightly younger drummers than the old dudes like Randy Peterson, Gerald Cleaver, Tom Rainey, Mark Sanders & Steve Noble are incredible. 

then we have Tyshawn Sorey, Ches Smith, Nasheet Waits, etc.

the real gap is we don’t have many under 40 drummers making their mark. Not sure why a few have not emerged as of yet. Especially here in NYC. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Steve Reynolds

[clifford_thornton]

I agree with the names you mention.

Nasheet I first saw with Andrew Hill and Peter Brötzmann (separately) almost 25 years ago. He’s excellent. I don’t know that recordings always capture these artists’ work well, but that has always been the case.

[HutchFan]

44 minutes ago, Steve Reynolds said:

the real gap is we don’t have many under 40 drummers making their mark. Not sure why a few have not emerged as of yet. Especially here in NYC. 

Marcus Gilmore?  He's 39.

 

[clifford_thornton]

I really like Joey Sullivan, who’s based in Philly. I don’t believe he’s even 30.