clifford_thornton Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Pim said: Yeah I’m really curious how they sounded together. Thats Ayler with Tranes rhythm section right? With Ali on drums? That could definitely work. https://recordmecca.com/item-archives/john-coltrane-albert-ayler-sonny-rollins-1966-new-york-concert-handbill/ Carlos Ward and Pharoah were part of Trane's group too, along with the Aylers. Shepp might've sat in also, but I don't have my session index handy (at a café). Quote
paulfromcamden Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 36 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said: https://recordmecca.com/item-archives/john-coltrane-albert-ayler-sonny-rollins-1966-new-york-concert-handbill/ Carlos Ward and Pharoah were part of Trane's group too, along with the Aylers. Shepp might've sat in also, but I don't have my session index handy (at a café). If I'd been in the neighbourhood I think I would have stumped up $2.50 for that bill. Quote
JSngry Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 hour ago, clifford_thornton said: https://recordmecca.com/item-archives/john-coltrane-albert-ayler-sonny-rollins-1966-new-york-concert-handbill/ 1 hour ago, clifford_thornton said: Titans Of The Tenor and they draw two alto players? Quote
felser Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 53 minutes ago, paulfromcamden said: If I'd been in the neighbourhood I think I would have stumped up $2.50 for that bill. The best seats would have cost you $4.80! That's about $48 in 2026 dollars. A great bargain for that bill. But I have to say, the idea of listening to an extended version of the creepy "Om" by that entourage somewhat scares me, though I'd certainly be down for the 35 minute "My Favorite Things". Quote
Dub Modal Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Strong chance that a live "Om" sounds nothing like the album version right? Is it correct to say Trane hated how that session came out and didn't want it released while he was alive? That's what I thought I read a while back. Quote
JSngry Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 It was hi acid album Not sure how "creepy" it is, whatever that means,? Quote
ghost of miles Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) Free the Tiberi tapes!!! I know much of that music has circulated over the years, but I would love to have most or all of it pulled together, cleaned up, annotated, and put out in box-set form. That's my Coltrane holy grail. I'd also be happily on board for any expanded release of the Half Note recordings. On 1/30/2026 at 1:01 PM, JSngry said: I'd still like a Bootleg Series release from the so_called Electric Jungle period. Hear hear! Seconded! Etc! Edited January 31 by ghost of miles Quote
Late Posted February 1 Author Report Posted February 1 9 hours ago, ghost of miles said: Free the Tiberi tapes!!! Out of curiosity, I did a quick search for "Frank Tiberi Tapes," and one of the first hits was a Facebook post by Pat LaBarbera stating that Tiberi had made a deal with Ravi for their release. If so...😲 Quote
Pim Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 (edited) 14 hours ago, ghost of miles said: Free the Tiberi tapes!!! I know much of that music has circulated over the years, but I would love to have most or all of it pulled together, cleaned up, annotated, and put out in box-set form. That's my Coltrane holy grail. I'd also be happily on board for any expanded release of the Half Note recordings. Hear hear! Seconded! Etc! https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10162234496401314&id=645751313&http_ref=eyJ0cyI6MTc2OTk0NjA2MTAwMCwiciI6Imh0dHBzOlwvXC93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbVwvIn0%3D according to these Facebook posts we could expect those this year. Any Coltrane is good for me but I am still hoping most for later period Trane. Edited February 1 by Pim Quote
colinmce Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 Been mentioned many times, but as always I would love an official release of the 1966 Newport set. I would wonder if there’s a better source hiding somewhere, but the circulating version is really not too shabby and could surely be improved. Quote
Holy Ghost Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 On 1/28/2026 at 12:27 PM, medjuck said: Ravi Coltrane and Terence Blanchard are touring with a tribute concert. I was scheduled to see it last night in Santa Barbara but they were snowed in somewhere in the east. (In the '70s here.) Just saw Terence Blanchard with Herbie Hancock back in November at Severance Hall in Cleveland. On 1/29/2026 at 1:19 PM, Late said: I'm guessing the Japanese market will eventually reissue a bunch of titles. I'm hoping for an album called Kind of Blue. And another rare-ish one—Blue Train. They're out of print again! Quote
Late Posted February 1 Author Report Posted February 1 That'll be amazing if the Tiberi tapes are issued via Impulse! If/when it happens, it will definitely be a proper tribute for Coltrane's 100th. What has Tiberi been sitting on all these years? I've never heard anything from his stash. Quote
ghost of miles Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 20 hours ago, Late said: That'll be amazing if the Tiberi tapes are issued via Impulse! If/when it happens, it will definitely be a proper tribute for Coltrane's 100th. What has Tiberi been sitting on all these years? I've never heard anything from his stash. From Ben Ratliff's Coltrane: the Story of a Sound. Many of the recordings were made at Philadelphia's Showboat in the early 1960s. It's all live performances of the classic quartet, although I think some have Roy Haynes on drums instead of Elvin (presumably from the stretch of 1963 when Elvin was out of commission). I have a couple of CD-Rs that someone sent me many years ago that includes Coltrane playing "After The Rain" on piano iirc. Guessing that audio technology 25 years on is more capable of improving the sound quality than it was when digital transfers were made in 2000. Tiberi noticed a big difference in Coltrane in 1960… Not wanting to let this pass undocumented, Tiberi started bringing a portable reel-to-reel tape recorder into clubs to tape Coltrane’s sets… His tapes are important evidence of what Coltrane was up to at the beginning of his bandleading… When Verve records made a digital transfer of Tiberi’s tapes, in 2000, they amounted to eighty-six CDs. The sound quality, however, was deemed (by Tiberi as well as Verve) not to be good enough for release. And so an important part of Coltrane’s story remains locked up, for now. - Ben Ratliff, Coltrane: the Story of a Sound Quote
Late Posted February 2 Author Report Posted February 2 37 minutes ago, ghost of miles said: When Verve records made a digital transfer of Tiberi’s tapes, in 2000, they amounted to eighty-six CDs. The sound quality, however, was deemed (by Tiberi as well as Verve) not to be good enough for release. And so an important part of Coltrane’s story remains locked up, for now. Whoa. I've been (very much) out of the loop as far as the Tiberi tapes. 86 CDs?!? Holy moly. Perhaps Verve/Impulse has culled the best-sounding of the tapes into a logical package? Fun to speculate at least. Quote
Pim Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 86 cds sound like a decent box set to me. 172 LP version for me than. With 100 versions of Giant Steps? 😅 Quote
gvopedz Posted February 2 Report Posted February 2 52 minutes ago, Pim said: 86 cds sound like a decent box set to me. 172 LP version for me than. With 100 versions of Giant Steps? 😅 The 86 CD box set would exceed the 83 CD (bootleg) collection of the Beatles Complete Get Back Sessions. Quote
paulfromcamden Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 15 hours ago, Late said: Whoa. I've been (very much) out of the loop as far as the Tiberi tapes. 86 CDs?!? Holy moly. Perhaps Verve/Impulse has culled the best-sounding of the tapes into a logical package? Fun to speculate at least. That would be the logical thing to do I guess. Though it's tricky for the label to release with much fanfare if the tapes really don't sound good. Perhaps the answer is a digital release akin to the Fugazi Live Series (currently 750 shows) where people can pick and choose what's interesting to them and download for a few dollars. Quote
Late Posted February 3 Author Report Posted February 3 4 hours ago, paulfromcamden said: Though it's tricky for the label to release with much fanfare if the tapes really don't sound good. True. Maybe Frank had some spontaneous RVG moments with his reel-to-reel? 😁 I think some of the Showboat recordings have been on the bootleg market for a while, but I don't know if those are Tiberi recordings or not. 4 hours ago, paulfromcamden said: Perhaps the answer is a digital release akin to the Fugazi Live Series (currently 750 shows) where people can pick and choose what's interesting to them and download for a few dollars. I'd be down with that. I'm guessing we'll see vinyl, however. ================= An aside: When I see the name "Frank Tiberi," I don't think of Coltrane recordings at all. Instead, I think of Tiberi's transcribed tenor solo on Chick Corea's "La Fiesta" from Woody Herman's Giant Steps album. My high school jazz band (this was eons ago) played that chart (the actual Herman chart), and Tiberi's solo was written out as an option for the tenor player to use as a solo. My director said, "Yeah, you should learn that solo." I did, and it was weird for a 16 year-old. I didn't understand what I was doing at all, and had no idea how Tiberi was handling the changes. 😅 Here's the track. Tiberi's solo begins at 2:08. Listening to it now, I only remembered the first four bars. (Our band did not play the tune this fast.) It's a good chart though! Quote
Late Posted February 4 Author Report Posted February 4 On 1/31/2026 at 1:37 PM, ghost of miles said: Free the Tiberi tapes!!! Freedom Quote
gvopedz Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago Record label Impulse!’s ‘Coltrane 100’ celebrations will also take in reissues of classic records such as Ascension, Africa/Brass and Impressions; a best-of compilation highlighting his work from 1957 and 1958; and a sound installation put together by hi-fi specialist Devon Turnbull at New York’s Cooper Hewitt. The John and Alice Coltrane Home in Dix Hills, New York, and the John Coltrane House in Philadelphia will also open to the public for the first time this year. To mark the announcement of the ‘Coltrane 100’ activities, the label has also shared a new video for the late artist’s ‘Acknowledgement’, from A Love Supreme. Directed by Kamasi Washington and AG Rojas, the visual features a recreation of of New Jersey’s Van Gelder Studios on the day that A Love Supreme was recorded there. https://thequietus.com/news/john-coltrane-live-album-tiberi-tapes-set-for-first-release/ Quote
jazzbo Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago Sony is reissuing "Milestones" in their 7" (packaging) SACD series. A hybrid SACD each for the stereo and mono. I've bought all the previous Miles (and Santana) 7" SACD releases from Sony but so far I'm passing on this as the tariffs make the price really high. Quote
gvopedz Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago Impulse! Records and partner labels will celebrate Coltrane’s catalog throughout 2026 with...and “The Essential John Coltrane,” a Target-exclusive limited-edition 2LP, available now. Probably no tariffs at Target? https://variety.com/2026/music/news/john-coltrane-estate-100-celebration-1236667036/ Quote
medjuck Posted 36 minutes ago Report Posted 36 minutes ago 1 hour ago, gvopedz said: Record label Impulse!’s ‘Coltrane 100’ celebrations will also take in reissues of classic records such as Ascension, Africa/Brass and Impressions; a best-of compilation highlighting his work from 1957 and 1958; and a sound installation put together by hi-fi specialist Devon Turnbull at New York’s Cooper Hewitt. The John and Alice Coltrane Home in Dix Hills, New York, and the John Coltrane House in Philadelphia will also open to the public for the first time this year. To mark the announcement of the ‘Coltrane 100’ activities, the label has also shared a new video for the late artist’s ‘Acknowledgement’, from A Love Supreme. Directed by Kamasi Washington and AG Rojas, the visual features a recreation of of New Jersey’s Van Gelder Studios on the day that A Love Supreme was recorded there. https://thequietus.com/news/john-coltrane-live-album-tiberi-tapes-set-for-first-release/ How does Impulse get to do a compilation from '57 & '58? (I admit I've lost track of who owns what.) Quote
jazzbo Posted 26 minutes ago Report Posted 26 minutes ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, medjuck said: How does Impulse get to do a compilation from '57 & '58? (I admit I've lost track of who owns what.) Although the labels are all owned by Universal I believe I do think that 'fifties compilation will come out on Craft/Concord. https://craftrecordings.com/products/john-coltrane-the-best-of-john-coltrane-lp Edited 25 minutes ago by jazzbo Quote
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