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COVID-19 2.0: No Politics edition

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12 minutes ago, Hardbopjazz said:

Here's a link to the actual National Veterinary Services Laboratory statement (unless this is a phony site): https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/newsroom/news/sa_by_date/sa-2020/ny-zoo-covid-19

Also included are some basic, logical, common sense Q&As.

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I thought we already discussed this, but perhaps not.  Cats can apparently get the virus from humans and spread it to other cats.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cats-can-get-coronavirus-study-suggests-but-pet-owners-need-not-panic/

The expert consensus at the moment is that they can't spread it back to humans, though given how much we don't know about this virus and how quickly the state of knowledge changes, I wouldn't bet on this being viewed as true 3-6 months from now. 

I certainly hope cats can't spread back to humans, but I don't see any real reason why they wouldn't be a vector of transmission.

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I’m not sure how much credence we should give to the research in question as the article states that:

“The results are based on lab experiments in which a small number of animals were deliberately infected with high doses of the virus, SARS-CoV-2, and do not represent real-life interactions between people and their pets, says virologist Linda Saif at The Ohio State University in Columbus.”

Edited by Brad

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That is true.  However, the question of whether cats can get it in the first place was raised because some household cats had come down with the virus, and then there was a different experiment I read about where cats in different cages were passed the coronavirus.  And certainly no one deliberately infected the tiger, so the bottom line is that felines as a general species can catch and probably spread the coronavirus.

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18 hours ago, Guy Berger said:

It certainly suggests they need better precautions... workplaces are a prime place for transmission.

sadly, I think we are going to find out this is similar to the Measles, and hangs in the air a lot longer than previously thought. and that's why its so important for everyone to find something to cover their faces! I don't know about you all, but here, near the ATL with few cases (so far) I still don't see many masks or gloves being worn...of course, unless you had those before, you are not going to find them now.

a few articles I just came across....this one is from mid March

https://www.wired.com/story/they-say-coronavirus-isnt-airborne-but-its-definitely-borne-by-air/

 

and the flu they were saying was spread easier than they thought, in 2018, so....

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20180119/flu-may-be-spread-by-just-breathing#1

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38 minutes ago, bresna said:

Holy cow... the idiocy of some people. If they only asked, someone could explain to them that 5G uses the same signals as 2G, 3G & 4G. 5G just uses them differently. Killing cell phone towers will not stop those signals from being broadcast. In fact, killing towers forces the remaining towers to broadcast at higher power levels to maintain coverage in the area. Dolts.

My old hometown, Holyoke, MA, has made the national news for all the wrong reasons. The Holyoke Soldiers' Home had a massive outbreak of COVID-19 and their handling of it is almost criminal. I can't imagine if this was a story about my dad: https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/04/05/holyoke-soldiers-home-veteran-family-response

I used to live in that neck of the woods; went to law school at WNEC. 

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I'm curious and have a question for those working from home that otherwise would not be.

If say in 30 days, things appear to resume back to a somewhat normal situation and your employer/place of business recalls you to the office/store/shop, do you think there will be some separation anxiety? I mean in the sense of leaving home, not being around pets all day, kids, significant other, etc.

Will you be freaked out some or looking forward to it?

I can't truly speak to it since I am still going out everyday but I'm obviously spending more time at home at night and on the weekends.

 

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5 minutes ago, catesta said:

I'm curious and have a question for those working from home that otherwise would not be.

If say in 30 days, things appear to resume back to a somewhat normal situation and your employer/place of business recalls you to the office/store/shop, do you think there will be some separation anxiety? I mean in the sense of leaving home, not being around pets all day, kids, significant other, etc.

Will you be freaked out some or looking forward to it?

I can't truly speak to it since I am still going out everyday but I'm obviously spending more time at home at night and on the weekends.

 

I'll be looking forward to it, but I don't see it happening by 30 days from now.  Everything here's pretty much canceled or online-only through the end of the summer, and there's already talk that stay-at-home could be extended into early June.  Hard to say how we can ever get back to "normalcy" until there are either plentiful antibody tests or a vaccine (which is most likely a year away, it seems?).  

I love my home and being here (I'm still going into work three days a week, about five hours a shift), but man do I miss being able to go out to restaurants and stores, watching baseball, shopping at the grocery store without feeling as if I'm stepping through the Valley of Death, etc.  Strange spring for sure.  

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I won't have any separation anxiety.  I wouldn't mind society in general moving more to teleworking (as there are positive benefits in terms of reducing congestion), but I do generally prefer more separation between home life and work life.

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41 minutes ago, catesta said:

I'm curious and have a question for those working from home that otherwise would not be.

If say in 30 days, things appear to resume back to a somewhat normal situation and your employer/place of business recalls you to the office/store/shop, do you think there will be some separation anxiety? I mean in the sense of leaving home, not being around pets all day, kids, significant other, etc.

Will you be freaked out some or looking forward to it?

I can't truly speak to it since I am still going out everyday but I'm obviously spending more time at home at night and on the weekends.

 

Just me, but I love working from home (and was approved to do it for about 5 years, before the office space opened up due to a downward staffing adjustment), don't at all like going into the office, but I can deal with it. either way, it's work. It is what it is, which is a gig.

I will say this, though - there appears to be a somewhat, uh....diverse perception of how important having people all together actually is as a concept. not about what makes sense as far as specific task-execution goes. It seems like the higher up the ladder you go, the more anxiety there is about it (maybe projecting their own anxiety about maybe "losing control"?), but that might just be my perception.

 

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4 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Just me, but I love working from home (and was approved to do it for about 5 years, before the office space opened up due to a downward staffing adjustment), don't at all like going into the office, but I can deal with it. either way, it's work. It is what it is, which is a gig.

I will say this, though - there appears to be a somewhat, uh....diverse perception of how important having people all together actually is as a concept. not about what makes sense as far as specific task-execution goes. It seems like the higher up the ladder you go, the more anxiety there is about it (maybe projecting their own anxiety about maybe "losing control"?), but that might just be my perception.

 

Jim, are you sure that keeping you at home isn’t, well, an elaborate hoax? 
 

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God, I wish...

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I have preferred WFH ever since the technology came in place to support it well.  My wife already worked from home 95% of the time anyways (and my cat hangs out with me much of the day), so I have great company.  And almost all of my meetings are remote even when I'm in the office, working with people here in Malvern/Philly, in Bangalore, and sometimes in Brasov, and most of my meetings have Bangalore representation.   Very little tangible benefit to me being in the office, and less distractions from home most days.   Plus it's really nice to have windows (the glass kind) to look out while I work.   I would love to WFH the rest of my career.  What I miss is being able to safely/routinely go out to do basic shopping, church, restaurants, etc.   But I'm personally wired well for our current existence.  However, it is very hard on a lot of people in many ways (I do worry about mass trauma/depression).  And the sickness/death is a horror, as are the economic consequences.

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56 minutes ago, ghost of miles said:

I'll be looking forward to it, but I don't see it happening by 30 days from now.  Everything here's pretty much canceled or online-only through the end of the summer, and there's already talk that stay-at-home could be extended into early June.  Hard to say how we can ever get back to "normalcy" until there are either plentiful antibody tests or a vaccine (which is most likely a year away, it seems?).  

I love my home and being here (I'm still going into work three days a week, about five hours a shift), but man do I miss being able to go out to restaurants and stores, watching baseball, shopping at the grocery store without feeling as if I'm stepping through the Valley of Death, etc.  Strange spring for sure.  

Man, I get that about going into a store. I was in Whole Foods Saturday morning and then to Total Wine to pick up an online order my wife placed. It just keeps getting more and more uncomfortable with the tape on the floor, signs everywhere and people avoiding getting close to each other.

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It will be tempting to take early-early retirement when this is all over and ‘normal sevice’ resumes !

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Boris Johnson has just been moved to ICU.

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7 minutes ago, sonnymax said:

Boris Johnson has just been moved to ICU.

Yes - all over the TV news here. Raab has been given the baton. Unsettling times..

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11 minutes ago, sidewinder said:

It will be tempting to take early-early retirement when this is all over and ‘normal sevice’ resumes !

It woul have been here, too, if our retirement plans hadn't been decimated :blink:.

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2 hours ago, JSngry said:

Just me, but I love working from home (and was approved to do it for about 5 years, before the office space opened up due to a downward staffing adjustment), don't at all like going into the office, but I can deal with it. either way, it's work. It is what it is, which is a gig.

I will say this, though - there appears to be a somewhat, uh....diverse perception of how important having people all together actually is as a concept. not about what makes sense as far as specific task-execution goes. It seems like the higher up the ladder you go, the more anxiety there is about it (maybe projecting their own anxiety about maybe "losing control"?), but that might just be my perception.

 

My son who is working at home says the higher ups are just to used to having assistants at their beck and call. They can't do many of the menial tasks on their own. 

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2 minutes ago, felser said:

It woul have been here, too, if our retirement plans hadn't been decimated :blink:.

I hear you ! ;)

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57 minutes ago, medjuck said:

My son who is working at home says the higher ups are just to used to having assistants at their beck and call. They can't do many of the menial tasks on their own. 

:)

 

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I see things the same way David does re. the timeline. I'm also really hopeful that some of the treatment therapies folks are grinding on might prove successful. That could be a game-changer too. But so far, swing and a miss.

My wife and I are both used to working from home, and we're homebodies, so the transition hasn't been too bad. But yeah, teaching college via Zoom isn't exactly a thrill a minute.

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