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Is Billy Brooks still living?

Does anyone have any experience with Dusty Groove pre-orders? I see this: Placed May 13, 2021 Order # 1545856 1 item Order in process and a total with shipping. Does this mean it is definitely coming? I did not get an email yet, but that may come when it ships.

I'm not buying the story with Grant Green being on loan from Blue Note. Larry had not even recorded Unity yet... I think John Patton told our fellow member that it was Larry. For me, the fact that the organist plays the Love Supreme vamp pretty much all through Go Down Moses points towards Larry.

No this is different - these are the contracts signed by the artists. If that Grant Green Left Bank tape is ever located, no one could put it out without clearance from whatever label he was signed with on the day of the recording. In this case, it was probably no label, but no one wants to be Palo-Altod.

The saga never ends. The subject of Wayne Shorter's Vee Jay and Blue Note contracts came up on the Mosaic/Frank Wolff photos Facebook page. So I asked about Grant. Apparently: 1) Grant was on loan to Verve and still with Blue Note in 1965. Does it say courtesy of Blue Note on the King Funk record? 2) The contracts still exist in the vaults but not available for us to see. I am sure Cobblestone said 1967 because by then Grant was a free agent. They probably did not know the date but were not about to go digging. I wish Blue Note would at least release the contract dates, I don't need to know about the bread. If that 1966 Left Bank session is to be released ever, someone needs to know if he was a free agent at that point. He probably was.

My friend David Grundy in the UK is writing an article on Larry Young for publication in the online journal Point of Departure, for which he had previously written about Alan Shorter (see below). Any information, would be appreciated, especially about gigs, particularly those from the later 60s and into the 70s, outside of the Tony Williams LIfetime and Santana/McLaughlin gigs which are extensively documented. Some gigs he already has information about include: 1) Larry with Dewey Redman and Rashied Ali at Slugs' in 1968 2) Larry with Byard Lancaster and Eric Gravatt 3) Larry with Billy Brooks and Leo Wright 4) Sidemen gigs with Houston Person, Jimmy Ponder and Lionel Hampton (as pianist) 5) A large group under his own name called 'Continuous Prayer' around the time of Lawrence of Newark (1973/1974) Anything about his later career would be most appreciated (especially those of you who may have seen him live), as well as any leads on tracking down his album 'The Magician'. Thanks! Bertrand. "Why?": The Parabolic New Music of Alan Shorter, by David Grundy (pointofdeparture.org)

I had the pleasure of shopping at Daedalus in Columbia, MD. I sure miss that place.

Such sad news.

It could well be that Billie was a bit on the wild side, but there is no reason an actress should be asked to debase herself to replicate this part of Billie's life. It is one of the things that prompted me to give up on film as an art form, films have become soft core or even hardcore porn films. In a Lubitsch film, when a couple is about to do the deed, they draw the curtains. That's all we need to see. That was art.

Yes, depends on who is putting it together of course. Fitzgerald and Cohen are my go-to guys for composer credits.

Ingrid Jensen plays it on her Here On Earth record.

The film is a mess, and her performance is a mess too. And the sex scenes are EMBARRASSING.

All discographies should have composer credits.

Larry and Ulmer also played together at Keystone Korner, but Todd Barkan does not remember the year. My guess is same tour.

Who do we know at Denon? Is there a branch in the US or Japan only? I can't keep these conglomerates straight. And where is Savoy now? At some point they were with Muse.

Yes, a detailed musical analysis could help. Remember that Dixon said Patton could never play like that. The Master Tape could have some studio chatter. Joe Fields purchased it, so in theory Barney Fields could have it. When Joel Dorn reissues it on 32jazz, did he go back to the master? I doubt it.

It would explain why Verve can't find the tape... It is odd that he arrived at the studio at the tail-end of the session, if there was a session. If I was paying for a session, I would be there to make sure it is happening. And was Pittsburgh the only town in which he needed some money in a hurry? Did he make it a habit to offer to do a quick record date on the fly and give up all rights to it? Where are all the other sessions? I have a theory that Lee Morgan may have made some secret sessions for Roulette, since he was copyrighting mystery tunes in Morris Levy's publising company. I checked with the people who would most likely have the tapes - nothing. All I know is that Morris Levy would not have given Lee some money without expecting something in return.

Mike Fitzgerald thought part of the head was flat out missing, That is not true.

Verve demo - now there's a theory. Probably from session logs, so accuracy cannot be proven until you listen to the damn thing. What exactly is wrong with Work Song? Mike Fitzgerald had issues with it too. He messes up the head on the first run through, but gets it right after. He fucks up Oleo too on a Blue Note date but no one seems to be complaining about that. I was wrong - the entire comping behind Grant's solo on Go Down Moses is Love Supreme, and Grant picks up on it during the organ solo. 100% sure it is Larry. And it can't be early 1965. Need to give Larry and Grant a chance to absorb the Coltrane record. It is the July 1965 date, period. I am sure.

$40 difference seems like a lot for a hard cover.

Just caught Michael's set tonight. Great music, highly recommended. The nod to Wayne Shorter is always appreciated!

Only three overlapping tunes though. If all 6 songs on the Iron City date were on the Verve date, we would have had a winning theory. Solved - it is neither Larry Young nor John Patton, it is Malcolm Bass! Just like Hassan, his discography doubles overnight! Reminder - Bill Heid told me it was definitely not Larry. I thought he meant in terms of technical organ issues or harmonies or something, but last time it came up, he almost made it sound like he knows something... He is in on the secret. Solved - it is Bill Heid on organ and George Heid on drums!

It can't be Ludwig - the Cobblestone record would have had to say 'Gene Ludwig appears courtesy of Travis records' LOL. When Ben Dixon discussed it with me, he never suggested it was not him. Sure wish I had recorded the whole conversation. Agreed, the Ludwig manager story is dubious at best.

I have been wondering that since the beginning, should be a no-brainer. I will not pretend I am astute enough to have questioned it before I talked to Dixon, but once he put the bug in my ear, I joined team Larry. Patton has somewhat of a more 'chunk-a-chunk' approach, Larry is more fluid (no disrespect intended). That Love Supreme vamp seals the deal for me. I agree that the story, as told, is very disrespectful of Grant.

Is it possible Gene Ludwig's manager is still around? The plot is definitely thickening...