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I don't need a free CD, I need him to give us a complete list of the tapes he was able to get. Bertrand.

Finally. I wonder in what way Sunenblick will acknowledge my involvement, if at all. Bertrand.

The Fresh Sound CD has a problem, IIRC. I think the song 'Curro's' is repeated so instead of 12 minutes, it's the 6 minute track played over. I'll have to check. Bertrand.

That sounds promising, but if anyone already bought this version, please confirm that it is not a needle drop. Bertrand.

Is the Curtis Counce from the actual tapes? I'm thinking of upgrading the Fresh Sound which didn't sound all that great. Bertrand.

I am happy that the Japanese are doing these Blue Note and Pacific Jazz reissues since the US has given up. Gigi Gryce's Reminiscing was a disappointing needle-drop, however. Bertrand.

It's a shame Ansell didn't try to interview anyone - I could have hooked him up with Freddie Redd and Butch Warren. Bertrand.

Thanks! No first name is give for Olsen? Bertrand.

Digging up this thread - I'm trying to put composer credits on some of these tunes. For anyone who was the Frankfurt Special CD on Fresh Sound, who is listed as composer on the following: Simone I Yogi Diagram Variations Simone II Morning Fun I don't think either 'Simone' is the Frank Foster tune, and in fact I think these are two different tunes. Thanks, Bertrand.

What's even more disturbing is that every one of these LP covers is from JSngry's personal collection. Bertrand.

So now we are looking at the possibility that there were two performances, or is Wayne just confusing UCLA with Monterey? I searched the Monterey recordings archive at Stanford but did not find anything. I will try to call them. Bertrand.

The thing I read was more specific - I thought the piece would contain snippets of well known tunes from the Miles repertoire like 'So What', but instead it is several Shorter compositions that had just been written and most of them not yet issued (certainly not 'Sweet Pea'). So it must have been some press release that I read since the pieces were not yet known at the time of the performance. I still think it was the March or April 1967 downbeat. Bertrand.

This event is documented somewhere? Bertrand.

Thanks! There actually be another article in an earlier issue (maybe 4/67), perhaps announcing the UCLA Festival. I distinctly remember a write-up which said that 'Legend' incorporates various themes from the Miles repertoire. That does not seem to be what the blurb above is talking about. Bertrand.

Thank you so much! I believe Siders is with Jazz Times, so could be reachable. Interesting line-up but not a whole lot of people who are still living, off the top of my head. Bertrand.

Thanks for finding this! I guess at some point I would like a Xerox copy if possible. 1) It really does not look like a pre-written review. It sure seems to me that the reviewer actually heard the piece. The only way I would be willing to believe that this made up is if the description did not match the piece, i.e. the piece is not 'built on descending figures with a bass lead, in a minor mode', and there is no middle section in 3/4. A bit of a stretch, IMHO. 2) Who wrote the review? Anyone we know? 3) So we know Grady Tate was on drums - there's one person still alive who might remember something. Are any other musicians mentioned? 4) It is not clear that Gary McFarland is conducting and in fact it seems that he is not. If not Gary, then who? 5) It's not even clear that it was Miles playing this piece! Rooster, does the article state that it was Miles performing? This piece involves a trumpet soloist in any case, so I would assume it was Miles. So who is going to call Grady Tate? I wonder if he is on Facebook... Bertrand.

There's a 20-minute feature on youtube by Brian Pace with some clips of the orchestra interspersed with an interview with Roney. It doesn't really give a good feel of how good the music is, and I think the first piece is actually the Irving piece, although I did hear some of 'Legend' later on. Bertrand.

Thanks! I can use this to get someone in DC interested in this project. The comment about putting more recent orchestral works into fuller context really hits the nail on the head - that's exactly how I felt walking out of the room. I'm sure glad I dug up 'Universe' and 'Twin Dragon' at the Library of Congress 20+ years ago. 1) Maybe they played 'Aura' on the night Adler was there, but on Sunday the set closer for both sets was a Robert Irving III piece which fit in very well with the rest. 2) Interesting comment about hearing 'Sanctuary' within 'Universe'. A friend of mine also thought he heard it, but what I was hearing was 'Condition Red'. I suspect there is a subtle relationship between the two. I hope everyone can hear this music live and on record real soon. Bertrand.

Bennie Green- Back on the Scene - BN TOCJ 1587 - $12.50 PM sent on this title.

Where's the Curtis Counce???

1) The Strathmore performance is cancelled, alas. I never really saw any movement or interest in the press or anywhere about this project, which speaks volumes about the current state of culture in the US. Unrecorded Orchestral works written by one of jazz's greatest composers (Shorter), written for one of jazz's greatest icons (Miles) but never performed and/or recorded? The Miles angle alone should have attracted some attention. 2) The music is fantastic - I'm so glad I went up to the Jazz Standard on Sunday. Drummer Kush Abadey really helped propulse the band into another stratosphere. There was a lot of interesting things that I caught that shed new light on Wayne's compositional process, but of course I would need to hear this music again and again. I hope one day there can be a recording of this that I can purchase. 3) The Downbeat article would be somewhere between 3/67 and 8/67. It's March or April, it may be an announcement of something which never took place, which would support David's theory. If it's a review of a concert that took place, that's another story. I remember the article talking about a piece of music that incorporates themes from 'throughout Davis' career'. 'The Legend' is certainly not some sort of greatest hits medley, but there are several Shorter compositions hinted at throughout. I caught 'Dolores', 'Orbits'. 'Sweet Pea', and 'Vonetta' right at the end, all somehow blended in with new material. And of course these pieces were ones Wayne was working on at the time, so it all fits in into one continuum. 'Universe' was mostly new, but I did catch a snippet of 'Condition Red' from Phantom Navigator, which was a big surprise. As Wayne had told me, 'Twin Dragon' has some relationship to the Atlantis album, but in a very interesting way - the main theme is sort of a hybrid of the compositions 'Atlantis' and 'The Three Marias'. Now I need to rethink how these two pieces relate, because the blend was seamless. 4) In any case, the 'presumed' performance of 'The Legend' would be from UCLA, 5/12/67, possibly with Gary McFarland conducting. This was part of a 3-day festival during which Gary conducted a bunch of things. including Gabor Szabo. 'Antigua' is from Berkeley in 1968. This is documented in Jack Chambers' book, again based on another DB article. Gil was the conductor. I think Bob Belden said in an interview that he has a poor quality tape of this concert. Certainly, finding this arrangement of 'Antigua' (probably by Gil?) would be a coup. Perhaps it can be transcribed from the tape? Bottom line: more info is needed on this May 1967 UCLA festival. If Miles did play, who was in the band and what did they play? The article and its author would be the next thing to get a hold of. Rooster, if you can't find it, I have another source I can go to. Bertrand.

What is the breakdown of the sets? Do you do 'Universe', 'Twin Dragon' and 'The Legend' in each set at the Jazz Standard? How about at Strathmore? Bertrand.

Going up to the Jazz Standard on Sunday, then Strathmore of course. I will have to find that Downbeat article again. I think it was a review more than an announcement of an upcoming show but I could be wrong. Of course, it would help to get the author and some of the personnel to track down the answer. Bertrand.

Any new updates? I know you've been on the road in such dreadful places as Italy and Spain. The life of a musician is rough Bertrand.

Max was working with Amiri Baraka on his (Max's) biography. This project seems to have fizzled. Bertrand.